DS9 on blu ray?
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And now fricking Eggheads, the poor man's The Chase, has that slot virtually year-round
Is it, though? I guess equipment like telecine scanners will get cheaper, render farms get cheaper so CGI can be churned out faster, and hopefully software gets easier to use with new iterations... but most of the budget for this would come from simple manhours - time spent searching through film canisters, time spent working on edits, painting new mattes, lining up plates, and so on. That's not going to get cheaper with time.
I fear this may be the most accurate post in pages.
I wanted to rewatch the show again since 2012 but I kept waiting, hoping this would happen. I finally caved and began the rewatch last week, especially because I'm introducing new people to the show (as I did four years ago) and every time that happens I just have to dive in too.
But dammit I will so drop serious college-student cash if it happens. Which is to say the best damn Amazon deal I can possibly find. But still.
I held on TNG for the best possible deal and I have gotten seasons 1-6 and will be picking up season 7 as soon as I possibly can afford it.
But, I would have a hard time waiting for price drops on DS9 because I too, have held off seeing them and will do so for a while longer.
If they were announced, especially with a fairly long time till the release date, I would start saving so I could buy them opening day.
I'm really amped for this release that will likely never come! LOL
Same with X-Files--announce that on Blu-ray and I'm buying it day 1--partly because X-Files hit the ground running faster than TNG and DS9 did.
But, I would have a hard time waiting for price drops on DS9 because I too, have held off seeing them and will do so for a while longer.
If they were announced, especially with a fairly long time till the release date, I would start saving so I could buy them opening day.
I'm really amped for this release that will likely never come! LOL
Same with X-Files--announce that on Blu-ray and I'm buying it day 1--partly because X-Files hit the ground running faster than TNG and DS9 did.
I don't think that X-Files season one was that great. True it had "Tooms" and "The Erlenmeyer Flask", but episodes like "Space" and "Shapes" weren't great.
X-Files season 1 was a whole lot better (in it's genre) than TNG season 1 was.
And as for cringe-worthy stuff--don't tell me X-Files season 1 had more than TNG season 1.
I wouldn't compare it to TNG's first season, but I think the first seasons of The X-Files and DS9 are pretty comparable in terms of the hit-or-miss ratio (which is about 50-50).
True. Neither DS9 or X-Files had the number of misguided episodes as TNG season 1.
My point was that X-Files kind of seemed it knew where it wanted to go from the beginning and I don't think either TNG or DS9 had a great grasp of what they wanted to be.
The end of DS9 season 1 brought in the whole Kai Winn struggle for the soul of Bajor and the end of season 2 brought in the Dominion and, then, DS9 was set for (IMO) greatness.
TNG slowly got better 2 better than 1, 3 better than 2 until it was a great show.
I think X-Files had greatness built in with the casting and the vision of Carter--which you can't really say about (the ailing) Roddenberry or Berman.
At any rate--whoever gets their show' DS9 or X-Files, on Blu-ray first--gets my money!
If one reads the DS9 format documents, one gets the picture of it being a series much more broadly defined than the one we got. What we saw in the bible were the basics: Starfleet officers on a remote outpost, the Wormhole providing the traditional aliens-of-the-week, Bajor and Cardassia as a backdrop to provide further story fodder. Season 1 is defined by this lack of cohesion, seeming to throw elements of all of the above at the wall to see what sticks and what doesn't. By the end of the season, and certainly into Season 2, I'd say that they had a very clear idea of where they wanted Deep Space Nine to be. The three part storyline beginning with "The Homecoming" basically set out where they intended to go from here.
From memory alpha:
It was a very conscious "line in the sand".
From memory alpha:
It was a very conscious "line in the sand".
They did a Klingon episode in season 2, without Worf, with "Blood Oath" which brought back 3 Original Series Klingon Commanders: Kang, Kor and Koloth. For Kor, this episode was the first part of a trilogy set in DS9. The second season also had the first episode of DS9 set in the "Mirror Universe" of the TOS. The second season is better than many people think. Garak's character has some interesting moments and I think his character finally accepts his exile in "Profit and Loss" and he seems to be really pained before making his decision to help Quark at the end of the episode.
I also wanted to add that I thought it was great that they brought back the original actors and they agreed to do it. Kudos to John Colicos, Michael Ansara and the memorable William Campbell.
Yeah I agree, season two had already opened up the kinds of stories that DS9 was able to take on board. Worf joining the station in season four facilitated more Klingon Empire stories, but it all ties in to my earlier point (which I might have made here, or in another thread) that DS9's position went from being this kind of lonely outpost on the frontier of space, to being basically the front line of the Alpha Quadrant. We see that change happen over the course of the show.
"The House of Quark" was also before Worf was added to DS9.
DS9's first season did feel too much like its sister show. The second season feels like the show finally finding its own thing. Heck, it started with a multi-episode arc which became a thing for the show.
Yeah, in season one there's very much the feeling that it's just like any other Star Trek series, except for the fact that the aliens come to them instead of them going to the aliens. Something like "Captive Pursuit" could have been written as a The Next Generation episode with really very little change at all.
Season two saw Deep Space Nine increasingly confident to beat it's own drum. Magnify all those things they thought worked well in season one and which differentiated it from TNG.
Season two saw Deep Space Nine increasingly confident to beat it's own drum. Magnify all those things they thought worked well in season one and which differentiated it from TNG.
I don't know. I'd say you can still tell the difference in the first season. Yes there are anomalies or aliens. But there's usually a reason for them to be there, whereas the other shows just happen to have the ship be there (e.g. If there's a station-wide malfunction it's because it was a Bajoran booby trap).
Another difference is that the early one-offs tended often tended to be noirish mystery procedurals, a slightly different flavor from the high concept sci-fi stories on the other shows.
Season two did definitely shift in direction, but organically, by laying down clues about the Dominion in subtle ways leading up to the season three finale.
Another difference is that the early one-offs tended often tended to be noirish mystery procedurals, a slightly different flavor from the high concept sci-fi stories on the other shows.
Season two did definitely shift in direction, but organically, by laying down clues about the Dominion in subtle ways leading up to the season three finale.
But that was the very last episode of the last two seasons. My point was that there was a lot there before that set it apart.
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