DS9 on blu ray?

[USS KG5]

I've seen some claim up to 6k scans are practical for 35mm film, but I'd personally expect to see no noticable difference above 1080p.

It seems that film proponents claim that film has a slightly higher resolution than the highest current digital format available, no matter what that is.

I guess the argument is whether or not higher resolution, frame rate etc is needed or not. Certainly there is nothing bad looking about good old fashioned 35mm film.

I'd like to see all the options as tools a filmmaker has in making a piece of art, while digital looks great for films with a lot of SFX, glossy high budget pics like the Avengers, 35mm is great for anything moodier and more atmospheric.

 

[scotthm]

I'd like to see all the options as tools a filmmaker has in making a piece of art, while digital looks great for films with a lot of SFX, glossy high budget pics like the Avengers, 35mm is great for anything moodier and more atmospheric.

Digital is all about saving money, not about obtaining the ultimate in quality.

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[USS KG5]

I'd like to see all the options as tools a filmmaker has in making a piece of art, while digital looks great for films with a lot of SFX, glossy high budget pics like the Avengers, 35mm is great for anything moodier and more atmospheric.

Digital is all about saving money, not about obtaining the ultimate in quality.

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I'd actually just repeat my quoted post in response to that! Emphasis mine.

 

[USS KG5]

Ah but you have to remember that a lot of people ripped their CD collections 10-15 years ago using poorly encoded 128k (or worse!) MP3s, and haven't updated since. I've still got loads of legacy digital files I haven't got around to redoing in the intervening years. In all honesty, I doubt I'll ever get round to it now, as I listen to most music via a streaming service (Google Play) which matches virtually everything in my collection with a snazzy 320kbps MP3 version.

I'd agree that it's difficult to tell the difference between a good quality MP3 and a lossless format, but the key is that a lot of people are still listening to stuff they haphazardly ripped with iTunes v.4.1 over a decade ago.

Good point - encoder quality often > bit rate

 

[Maxwell Everett]

I've seen some claim up to 6k scans are practical for 35mm film, but I'd personally expect to see no noticable difference above 1080p.

It seems that film proponents claim that film has a slightly higher resolution than the highest current digital format available, no matter what that is.

8-perf 35mm (aka VistaVision) is capable of around 6K (6000 x 4000) resolution at the lowest ISO speeds using modern motion picture color negative stocks. 4-perf 35mm is around 4K (4000 x 3000). That's usually what people mean when they say "6K" for 35mm. They're stretching the truth -- they're talking about a format that is very rarely used (usually for VFX) because the cameras are too noisy to shoot sync sound.

 

[DrOBoogie1]

We're only about two weeks away from the final blu-ray season of TNG. Anyone think there will be any hints about the future of Trek on blu-ray? Y'know, "look for more Star Trek on blu-ray, coming soon [or eventually]!"

 

[USS KG5]

We're only about two weeks away from the final blu-ray season of TNG. Anyone think there will be any hints about the future of Trek on blu-ray? Y'know, "look for more Star Trek on blu-ray, coming soon [or eventually]!"

Sadly, I think not.

I got TOS S1 and ENT S4 the other day, but am not expecting to ever see DS9 blus

 

[DS9forever]

I think there is a chance.

 

[Mage]

I think there is a chance.

If there was a change of DS9 on bluray, we'd already now. A project of that scale would be underway already. And you can't keep a lid on it for long. So we'd have heard some substantial whispers by now if it was happening. So, no.

 

[TheSubCommander]

I think there is a chance.

The longer time goes by, the less likely it will be on blu ray, IMHO. I hope I'm wrong, though.

But I could see maybe DS9 being remastered and streamed, if CBS can make money on it.

 

[DragonQ]

Half-arsed HD remasters for streaming services is more likely since they can get away with reducing costs a lot. Cropping, for example, would be horrible (unless DS9 or Voyager were 16:9 protected but I highly doubt it) but much more likely for streaming remasters compared to BD ones.

 

[Squiggy]

I think there is a chance.

Also possible: unicorns.

 

[eyeresist]

Half-arsed HD remasters for streaming services is more likely since they can get away with reducing costs a lot. Cropping, for example, would be horrible (unless DS9 or Voyager were 16:9 protected but I highly doubt it) but much more likely for streaming remasters compared to BD ones.

So put that on BR. We'll still buy it!

 

[USS KG5]

unless DS9 or Voyager were 16:9 protected but I highly doubt it

Worse than that I believe, on ds9 they didnt fix things even in frame, using basic cgi to tidy the sets.

 

[scotthm]

on ds9 they didnt fix things even in frame, using basic cgi to tidy the sets.

That seems odd, and like a more expensive way to operate. Do you have some examples of this?

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[USS KG5]

on ds9 they didnt fix things even in frame, using basic cgi to tidy the sets.

That seems odd, and like a more expensive way to operate. Do you have some examples of this?

Nope, it was mentioned up-thread by someone else, if they are still lurking maybe they can chip in?

It was in line with a general culture in TV of "We'll fix it in post" that grew up as CGI evolved.

 

[SPCTRE]

I think there is a chance.

Also possible: unicorns.

I want in on that. I'm putting in a preorder ASAP.

 

[benjaminh]

I think there is a chance.

Also possible: unicorns.

I want in on that. I'm putting in a preorder ASAP.

Unicorn available in HD in the Final Cut of Blade Runner.

 

[Admiral Bear]

Also possible: unicorns.

I want in on that. I'm putting in a preorder ASAP.

Unicorn available in HD in the Final Cut of Blade Runner.

Perhaps we could get a remake of "If Wishes Were Horses" made. The Unicorn and Rutger Hauer could replace Buck Bokai and that irritating Irish leprechaun.

 

[trekker670]

I think there is a chance.

If there was a change of DS9 on bluray, we'd already now. A project of that scale would be underway already. And you can't keep a lid on it for long. So we'd have heard some substantial whispers by now if it was happening. So, no.

That's not really true. While I'm not saying that DS9 is happening (far from it), TNG-HD wasn't much more than speculation before they officially announce the project. TNG-HD had been speculated for years, just as DS9-HD currently is.

Hollywood revolves around non-disclosure agreements, making leaks relatively rare. When you're dealing with a small in-house post-production team, as TOS and TNG did, if someone were to leak information they'd be easily located and fired. It's not worth the risk. Besides, as much as us fans like to think, these remastering projects aren't very high profile.