DS9 on blu ray?

[dub]

This was probably already discussed and I'm just having a brain fart, but do the studios have access to streaming view counts (or whatever they call their "ratings?")

 

[BillJ]

There's some good discussion/theories being passed around but like a previous poster mentioned, this is sounding exactly like the kind of down-beat speculation on TNG-R before that project was announced. I personally believe that we will get our beloved DS9 on BluRay, at least eventually and to a TNG-R standard.

Problem being that TNG sales haven't been that great after the initial buzz wore off and DS9 is expected to sell only a fraction of what TNG has.

With all these new formats buzzing in and out of existence every few years, one thing is certain - DS9/VOY are UN-SELLABLE and OUTDATED as a profitable product now.

Thing about it, any money CBS makes off of DS9/VOY is all profit. Since the shows are streaming on various sites, they are generating revenue for CBS with zero investment.

 

[Squiggy]

With all these new formats buzzing in and out of existence every few years, one thing is certain - DS9/VOY are UN-SELLABLE and OUTDATED as a profitable product now. They will either take the risk at making some more bucks over the coming decades or bury both shows THIS decade. One or the other people.
I think it's obvious what they will decide.

I don't think CBS is remastering TNG to get a couple more bucks from DVD sales...it's to continue syndication deals. That's where the real money is anyway.

There just isn't any demand to air DS9, Voyager, or Enterprise these days. CBS spending a ton of time and money on remastering won't change that.

 

[davejames]

With the TNG blurays winding down, I have to think they would have announced something by now if DS9 was really in the works.

It's just not looking good, I'm afraid.

 

[USS KG5]

It's covered earlier in the thread - an inside source has been quoted in a manner that convinced some knowledgeable posters here as saying "no plans" - this means "not happening" in that context.

The maths are pretty simple really, if TNG only just made money on BD then they know the far less popular DS9 will lose buckets of it.

I'd actually say you are more likely to see Voyager remastered, but we will only get either if Netflix and co are willing to pay more for them than the SD versions.

 

[Balok's Head]

My point was that they have to do 'something' with it as it's worth nothing more in it's current condition.

I just think it's unwise to begin digging graves for DS9 and VOY just yet..
If it were as cut and dry as some here suggest CBS would have already unveiled their respective headstones by now. I don't think the revenue from TNG season 7 will be a game changer and CBS likely knows this, so it's not like they're waiting to see how this last release goes before making a decision. It will happen.

 

[Squiggy]

My point was that they have to do 'something' with it as it's worth nothing more in it's current condition.

No. They don't. They know no network is going to pick up DS9 or Voyager just because they spent a shit-ton of time and money to remaster it.

 

[benjaminh]

FrontierTrek, who seems to be the best source on this, has been very quiet lately.

I'm completely pathetic, but I'm wondering if that means possible good news?

Yeah, I know. Wake up.

 

[Balok's Head]

My point was that they have to do 'something' with it as it's worth nothing more in it's current condition.

No. They don't. They know no network is going to pick up DS9 or Voyager just because they spent a shit-ton of time and money to remaster it.

Well since no one actually knows, it's all speculation.
I remember people saying the same thing about TNG before and look who that turned out.

 

[trekker670]

TrekCore put up an article from the Vegas Con, when asked about DS9, their response was

we are not allowed to talk about potential or future projects

and mentioned CBS Execs being in the audience.

 

[benjaminh]

TrekCore put up an article from the Vegas Con, when asked about DS9, their response was

we are not allowed to talk about potential or future projects

and mentioned CBS Execs being in the audience.

Hmmm.

Could be wrong, but to me that might mean they are still thinking about it.

 

[BillJ]

Could be wrong, but to me that might mean they are still thinking about it.

They could be thinking about it. But, they could also be thinking there are many suckers out there that would be willing to spend money on a simple uprezzing of the current material.

Like they contemplated doing with TNG.

 

[Jefferies]

Hmmm.

Could be wrong, but to me that might mean they are still thinking about it.

I don't think it means anything. The execs being there is likely just standard procedure. The Comic Con press conference is the key publicity event for the promotion of this product for CBS. Thats the only reason the execs are there.

Regarding what Okuda said about not being allowed to comment. They were probably ordered to stay on message and not waste valubale time speculating about stuff that has nothing to do with the product they are meant to promote.

 

[trekker670]

Hmmm.

Could be wrong, but to me that might mean they are still thinking about it.

I don't think it means anything. The execs being there is likely just standard procedure. The Comic Con press conference is the key publicity event for the promotion of this product for CBS. Thats the only reason the execs are there.

Regarding what Okuda said about not being allowed to comment. They were probably ordered to stay on message and not waste valubale time speculating about stuff that has nothing to do with the product they are meant to promote.

Your points are valid, but to clarify, this was at the Vegas Star Trek Convention, not Comic Con.

 

[trekker670]

Also, some more fodder from an interview from Roger Lay, Jr.

Deep Space Nine, we all want to do it. I’ll tell you that. I think it’ll be more difficult in the sense that by season 4 of DS9 you had digital elements, a lot of digital elements. By the Dominion War they were doing entire sequences that were digital, there were no models anymore. On TNG we’ve had all these plates and all these model motion-control shots to re-composite. You don’t have anything like that now. So you kind of have to recreate everything when it comes to that stage. I think the first three seasons will be fairly close to what has been done on Next Gen, but by season 4 and beyond it will get a lot more complicated. So all of that has to be factored in. And honestly they have to look at the sales of Next Gen and see how it did overall and what kind of a budget they could allot for Deep Space Nine. So will it happen immediately? I don’t know. Do we all want to go and bring Deep Space Nine back? Absolutely. I think the next couple of months will be crucial. It will also be crucial to fans who have been waiting for all seven seasons of TNG to be released. It sounds sad, but it’s a business decision when it should be a creative one. But you need sales in order to put out more product, it’s as simple as that. We’re hoping to get news within the next several months. But if fans want to do anything to make that happen, pick up these Blu-ray sets right now, because the entire Next Generation collection will be out.

So, nothing really that we don't already know, except it implies that it's not completely out of the question yet.

 

[Squiggy]

As of today- Star Trek Netflix "ratings", which is a pretty good gauge of comparative demand for things these days.

TNG: 2.7 million ratings
TOS: 1.9 million ratings
VOY: 1.4 million ratings
DS9: 971,000 ratings
ENT: 962,000 ratings

Nemesis has 1.5 million ratings.

 

[MakeshiftPython]

As of today- Star Trek Netflix "ratings", which is a pretty good gauge of comparative demand for things these days.

TNG: 2.7 million ratings
TOS: 1.9 million ratings
VOY: 1.4 million ratings
DS9: 971,000 ratings
ENT: 962,000 ratings

Nemesis has 1.5 million ratings.

I know DS9 was not as popular as its predecessors, but to see it below VOY is sad.

 

[BillJ]

As of today- Star Trek Netflix "ratings", which is a pretty good gauge of comparative demand for things these days.

TNG: 2.7 million ratings
TOS: 1.9 million ratings
VOY: 1.4 million ratings
DS9: 971,000 ratings
ENT: 962,000 ratings

Nemesis has 1.5 million ratings.

I know DS9 was not as popular as its predecessors, but to see it below VOY is sad.

Well, I think part of it is the fact that Voyager was closer to actually being "Star Trek" than Deep Space Nine was.

Personally, I'd be more interested in seeing Voyager redone for HD than Deep Space Nine. If I had to pick one.

 

[Squiggy]

Since both shows would require twice the work and maybe get half the sales, it ain't happening.

 

[BillJ]

Since both shows would require twice the work and maybe get half the sales, it ain't happening.

I tend to agree.