Donny's Refit Enterprise Interiors (Version 2.0)
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This is quite possibly the best thing on this thread
Saving it to my project files so I'll never forget it.Possibly it got damaged. Or pilfered for some other purpose in the movie. Though I can’t think of anything else in the movie it could have become off the top of my head. It’s interesting because a shield display was needed for one shot ( showing they weren’t functioning when the automation system was overloaded) , necessitating it to be recreated in the science station (and it was a completely different graphic realized so it wasn’t like the shield display was just moved to that station. Perhaps that’s why they put Checkov at the science station? He kind of bounced around a bunch of stations in that film.
Torpedos....AVAY!!!!!
Oddly, TSFS is the ONLY Trek movie where Chekov appears on the original Enterprise at the navigator's station. He takes his old place back of course on the Enterprise-A. He mans the science station for a preapproach scan, then communications, and then finally science again.
What I never understood is why they didn’t have Checkov take over navigation after Ilia got digitized by Vejur in TMP, rather than introducing a new character. They seemed to make a point of showing how everyone else was back at their old familiar place except him. Story wise there just is not much for weapons officer to do after they get though the cloud. I realize it was A holdover from phase 2, but with all the rewrites surely Simone would have said, “hey, if we just move Koenig to this chair in scene 123 we can avaoid paying for another speaking part (and the potential baggage of hiring Shatner’s wife). Seems like they would have been looking for places to save money at that point.
Interestingly, for all the gruff Bennett and Meyer get for making Trek more militaristic, it was Roddenberry that added a dedicated gunner station on the bridge. And two imposing launchers for torpedoes (or torpodos) on the Enterprise. In TNG he made the weapons console one of the most prominent stations on the bridge.
Interestingly, for all the gruff Bennett and Meyer get for making Trek more militaristic, it was Roddenberry that added a dedicated gunner station on the bridge. And two imposing launchers for torpedoes (or torpodos) on the Enterprise. In TNG he made the weapons console one of the most prominent stations on the bridge.
Completely finished up the Weapons and Defense station tonight, except for the station's central viewscreen (I'll be doing all bridge viewscreens as one massive pass, starting tomorrow!)
The TMP station is it's most elegant and clean appearance, with the station housing rising all the way up to the bridge's lower ceiling modules. It featured a simplified shield status display, and did not have a manual firing switch nor the row of illuminated switches that later appeared in TWOK. It was also completely free of greebles.
The TMP version did have one feature unique to its appearance: a set of mini-transporters, which were unfortunately never seen in-use on-screen, but was called out as such in official bridge schematics, and the control panel in-between the two units did indeed indicate that these two small alcoves were transporter units. These units appeared to have a sheet of smoked plexiglass in front of them, presumably a sliding glass door to protect the bridge crew from harmful radiation during transport. We can surmise that these transporters would have been used to beam engineering tools, scientific samples, or emergency equipment to the bridge. There isn't any clear refenence of these units, so I pieced them together as best as I could, given the available fuzzy views of them. I've made it to where their transporter pads feature smaller versions of the fresnel lenses used on the TOS Enterprise transporter. Here they are shown with the smoked glass doors retracted.
In TWOK, the station was altered in several ways. The mini transporters were removed and replaced by greebles, yet the transporter graphic remained, albeit with different coloring. Additional greebles were planted onto the formerly bare walls of the structure, and the top of the station was lowered (and adorned with greebles as well), presumably to allow for this unit to be pulled out as needed for filming purposes. The shield generator was changed, featuring a Phase II diagram of the ship surrounded by illuminating lights to signify the raising and lowering of shields. A row of illuminated switches were added to the edge of the console, tied into the numeric display above the Torpedo Load Status panel, which Spock famously uses to input Reliant's command code of 1-6-3-0-9 during Kirk's explosive reply to Khan. The displays to the left of the officer manning the station were altered as well, and were given static graphics which appear to be gauges of some sort, their exact purpose unknown . [EDIT: Whoops! I forgot to change "TORPEDOES" to its screen-accurate "TORPEDOS". Doh!)
A manual firing switch was added in TWOK, situated below the console and accessed via a small plexiglass door. This was famously utilized by Chekov to deliver the finishing blows to the Reliant during the film's climax.
The station was almost identical for it's appearance on the Reliant, save for a couple of features. The prefix code indicator was removed, and the station's main monitor was changed from a flat black display to an elliptical CRT screen. (Both of these changes persisted into the Enterprise bridge's next apperance in TSFS). We never see the forward end of the Reliant console in TWOK, but I've gone ahead and taken the liberty of coloring the greebles that replaced the transporter units blue to keep with the color scheme of the rest of the bridge.
Now that all that is done, I have but one more modeling task to take care of before moving on to the bridge viewscreens: the captain's chair controls.
The TMP station is it's most elegant and clean appearance, with the station housing rising all the way up to the bridge's lower ceiling modules. It featured a simplified shield status display, and did not have a manual firing switch nor the row of illuminated switches that later appeared in TWOK. It was also completely free of greebles.
The TMP version did have one feature unique to its appearance: a set of mini-transporters, which were unfortunately never seen in-use on-screen, but was called out as such in official bridge schematics, and the control panel in-between the two units did indeed indicate that these two small alcoves were transporter units. These units appeared to have a sheet of smoked plexiglass in front of them, presumably a sliding glass door to protect the bridge crew from harmful radiation during transport. We can surmise that these transporters would have been used to beam engineering tools, scientific samples, or emergency equipment to the bridge. There isn't any clear refenence of these units, so I pieced them together as best as I could, given the available fuzzy views of them. I've made it to where their transporter pads feature smaller versions of the fresnel lenses used on the TOS Enterprise transporter. Here they are shown with the smoked glass doors retracted.
In TWOK, the station was altered in several ways. The mini transporters were removed and replaced by greebles, yet the transporter graphic remained, albeit with different coloring. Additional greebles were planted onto the formerly bare walls of the structure, and the top of the station was lowered (and adorned with greebles as well), presumably to allow for this unit to be pulled out as needed for filming purposes. The shield generator was changed, featuring a Phase II diagram of the ship surrounded by illuminating lights to signify the raising and lowering of shields. A row of illuminated switches were added to the edge of the console, tied into the numeric display above the Torpedo Load Status panel, which Spock famously uses to input Reliant's command code of 1-6-3-0-9 during Kirk's explosive reply to Khan. The displays to the left of the officer manning the station were altered as well, and were given static graphics which appear to be gauges of some sort, their exact purpose unknown . [EDIT: Whoops! I forgot to change "TORPEDOES" to its screen-accurate "TORPEDOS". Doh!)
A manual firing switch was added in TWOK, situated below the console and accessed via a small plexiglass door. This was famously utilized by Chekov to deliver the finishing blows to the Reliant during the film's climax.
The station was almost identical for it's appearance on the Reliant, save for a couple of features. The prefix code indicator was removed, and the station's main monitor was changed from a flat black display to an elliptical CRT screen. (Both of these changes persisted into the Enterprise bridge's next apperance in TSFS). We never see the forward end of the Reliant console in TWOK, but I've gone ahead and taken the liberty of coloring the greebles that replaced the transporter units blue to keep with the color scheme of the rest of the bridge.
Now that all that is done, I have but one more modeling task to take care of before moving on to the bridge viewscreens: the captain's chair controls.
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I know it potentially creates continuity issues, but couldn't those mini-transporters also be replicators?
Donny, your work never ceases to amaze.
Donny, this is truly beautiful. I feel like I could almost reach out and touch the controls.
Maybe the mini transporters are still there in TWOK. Perhaps the greebles are just new covers that offer better shielding from the radiation. The colors on them may indicate status - such as: active, offline, in use, empty, object in chamber. Perhaps the transporter accident in TMP inspired engineers to rethink the dangers of exposure to transporter radiation.
Since a TOS Fresnel lens is used, would the transporter effect resemble the gold sparkle of TOS rather than the blue prismatic glow of TMP?
Maybe the mini transporters are still there in TWOK. Perhaps the greebles are just new covers that offer better shielding from the radiation. The colors on them may indicate status - such as: active, offline, in use, empty, object in chamber. Perhaps the transporter accident in TMP inspired engineers to rethink the dangers of exposure to transporter radiation.
Since a TOS Fresnel lens is used, would the transporter effect resemble the gold sparkle of TOS rather than the blue prismatic glow of TMP?
I heard that too. I wonder if they mean they used the same type of lens rather than the six actual ones from TOS. Most of the props and set materials got pilfered or tossed after TOS was cancelled. Only small things like Uhura’s earpiece happened to still be available. I guess it is possible but fresnel lenses were not uncommon — they are a. Good way of spreading and directing a flight source - and were in many traffic signals, searchlights and other marine lighting applications. Given how easily those could be procured I am inclined to think this are different lenses of the same type in TOS. Plus they were probably needed for the various TMP - TSFS transporter rooms to help distribute light throughout the patio blocks.
Now, if it turns out they are the actual ones from TOS, they were probably installed in the transporter room for Phase II. When sets were updated for TMP, the fresnel lenses were covered with the “patio blocks”. But I am willing to bet there were fresnel lenses for both the floor and ceiling lights, as well as the Regula One / earth station transporter rooms, so even with the TOS lenses, additional lenses would have been needed. Once the transporter set was updated for TNG, the new ones installed in the ceiling would have been retained, while the legacy TOS lens s on the floor would have been tossed in the trash and replaced with the huge plexiglas disk. ;-)
Seriously, there were probably fresnel lenses under the plexiglas floor to help distribute light into the circular patterns, remaining present but through voyager (like those phase 2 corridor walls)
Now, if it turns out they are the actual ones from TOS, they were probably installed in the transporter room for Phase II. When sets were updated for TMP, the fresnel lenses were covered with the “patio blocks”. But I am willing to bet there were fresnel lenses for both the floor and ceiling lights, as well as the Regula One / earth station transporter rooms, so even with the TOS lenses, additional lenses would have been needed. Once the transporter set was updated for TNG, the new ones installed in the ceiling would have been retained, while the legacy TOS lens s on the floor would have been tossed in the trash and replaced with the huge plexiglas disk. ;-)
Seriously, there were probably fresnel lenses under the plexiglas floor to help distribute light into the circular patterns, remaining present but through voyager (like those phase 2 corridor walls)
Yeah I doubt the lenses were the exact lenses used in the TOS transporter. I believe this rumor originated from “The Art of Star Trek” in which the books states that they’re the same lenses, when they probably just meant the same type of lens.
I’ve heard that a good bit of information in that book is wrong or misleading, so I tend to scrutinize any of the information Inside.
That's common knowledge, but unverified AFAIK. It's fairly certain that the transporter room set was kept in reasonably good shape from TMP-Voyager, with redressing for the subsequent films and again for TNG, then Voyager, but whether any bits or bobs survived from the TOS set is unlikely.
Anything from Voyager that wasn't recycled for Nemesis or Enterprise was tossed or auctioned.
Mental pretzel logic time... Maybe Scotty removed it to use as a temporary display elsewhere. They were continuing to make temporary/makeshift repairs on the way back to spacedock, after all.And it doesn't even look like an explosion hit it or the base of the display was left over. It's like it never existed
re Fresnels: How would anyone know they were the same exact lenses, unless someone stored them with other TOS materials like the costumes, etc.?
re the switches added for the prefix code: I hated where they put them, because you'd be hitting them every time you reached for the accordion buttons just above them.
re the switches added for the prefix code: I hated where they put them, because you'd be hitting them every time you reached for the accordion buttons just above them.
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