There are photos of these in the "Star Trek Phase II" book that was released. Interesting how the communications station didn't originally have that second display on top the original - it was obviously added in for The Motion Picture.
Yeah. The Phase II version of communications originally didn't have an upper display. That was probably a last-minute addition to the bridge set for "Star Trek: The Motion Picture;" something quick they added in without the "hood" because adding something with the hood would have taken time or they didn't want to risk damaging that part of the set that didn't have it.
I love that test footage, though I'm delighted that it was all upgraded to movie-quality for TMP. The test footage suggests that Phase II would have looked rather Battlestar Galactica/Buck Rogers, and reusing the old costumes doesn't help. Who is the actress in red doing the Deltan make-up tests? It's obviously Persis in the yellow.
I'm rather bewildered by what the man in the engineering scenes was wearing. Were there really intended to be crew members dressed like that? If the idea was to put both men and women in skimpy attire this time, that seems only fair, but an engine room seems like a place for more practical and protective attire. As far as the Galactica comparison, what I found interesting about Jean-Pierre Dorleac's costume designs there is that they kind of inverted the gender norms. The women's costumes weren't particularly revealing most of the time (except for Audrey Landers in that one episode), while the men were often in fairly revealing wardrobe, e.g. the outfits they wore for that trampoline-based sport. There seems to be a similar approach going on here, aside from the women still being in miniskirts.
Strangely enough, I got something of a "Logan's Run" vibe from those costumes worn in the engineering set.
Yes, absolutely. I never thought the man's (David Gautreax?) costume was supposed to be a Starfleet uniform. It's exactly what I would have expected from a seventies Trek series. I'm sure it's not supposed to be an engineer's costume! It's presumably just for lighting and camera tests.
Okay, but why put the woman in a Starfleet uniform and the man in that weird bell-bottomed overalls thing? I doubt it was just something he threw on. It looks like a '70s take on futuristic clothing. So I wonder what purpose it was meant to serve, if it wasn't meant as a uniform.
Thiess created that overall as the new working outfit, like the old coveralls in TOS. He created a whole slew of potential updates to the standard uniform, including changing the pant bottoms to have a V-slit, much like the TNG jumpsuits. James Cawley, former fan film producer and owner of the Star Trek Tour in upstate NY, owns several of these Star Trek II (70s show) costumes. Our dearly departed member GSchnitzer (who worked on the fan series New Voyages/Phase II) discussed them in this old BBS post: A close up of one of the command-colored overalls: https://www.flickr.com/photos/coastermadmatt/29531973204/in/photostream/ And several of these prototype Star Trek II (70s show) uniforms were auctioned off: https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-4780496 https://www.icollector.com/Star-Trek-Phase-II-Starfleet-Engineering-Smock_i15604086
See, that's what I was thinking. It was meant to be an engineer's work clothes, which makes it odd that it leaves the arms and shoulders so exposed, since that doesn't seem all that safe. Is it, like, as hot as a boiler room in engineering? Well, with a matter-antimatter reactor right there in the middle of the chamber, maybe that makes sense.
I think we might have seen Peter Kirk wear one in Cawley's "Phase II" episode "Blood and Fire Part I."
You mean Triad? That was more a rollerderby/basketball/waterpolo-without-the-pool mashup. Suits by Wrestlers-R-Us.
Oh, I'm probably thinking of that episode of The Prisoner that had an indoor sport based on trampolines. Yeah, in the original series, the ball game was triad and the card game was pyramid, and in the reboot, they flipped the names around for some reason.
Although it's neat to ponder "what if?", I'm really glad that things worked out the way they did and we were delivered the Trek we got, the good and the bad. It's easy to see that if Phase II was produced, at least the visual style of Trek would've taken a very different trajectory. Although, they'd probably have pivoted to what we eventually got anyway, much like they pivoted after the pajamas and pastels of TMP to settle on the more grounded militaristic looks of TWOK-TUC. And similarly how they pivoted after the slightly more fantasy look of TNG S1 and S2 for the later seasons.
“Our dearly departed member GSchnitzer (who worked on the fan series New Voyages/Phase II) discussed them… A close up of one of the command-colored overalls: “ https://www.flickr.com/photos/coastermadmatt/29531973204/in/photostream/ Now in TOS they wore black t-shirts underneath to fill them out. This all does have an NBC look. I used to be able to tell what channel I was watching by the hue. A yellow tint would have made this pop I think.
A quick google search shows PK wearing a black tee with the red one. His SO also wears a black tee with the blue one. Not sure if the PDAs violate the Google pix rules so folks can do their own search.
We got a glimpse of Phase II something out of a comic a little while ago. Would have loved to see more of that world. Just wanted to add in this thread that I'm still eagerly anticipating the white Trek 4 bridge