That upper display on the Comm station is also missing the hood that all the others have.
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That upper display on the Comm station is also missing the hood that all the others have.
Yeah. The Phase II version of communications originally didn't have an upper display. That was probably a last-minute addition to the bridge set for "Star Trek: The Motion Picture;" something quick they added in without the "hood" because adding something with the hood would have taken time or they didn't want to risk damaging that part of the set that didn't have it.
These just pop up from time to time. Great find Maurice!
I love that test footage, though I'm delighted that it was all upgraded to movie-quality for TMP.
The test footage suggests that Phase II would have looked rather Battlestar Galactica/Buck Rogers, and reusing the old costumes doesn't help.
Who is the actress in red doing the Deltan make-up tests? It's obviously Persis in the yellow.
The test footage suggests that Phase II would have looked rather Battlestar Galactica/Buck Rogers, and reusing the old costumes doesn't help.
Who is the actress in red doing the Deltan make-up tests? It's obviously Persis in the yellow.
I'm rather bewildered by what the man in the engineering scenes was wearing. Were there really intended to be crew members dressed like that? If the idea was to put both men and women in skimpy attire this time, that seems only fair, but an engine room seems like a place for more practical and protective attire.
As far as the Galactica comparison, what I found interesting about Jean-Pierre Dorleac's costume designs there is that they kind of inverted the gender norms. The women's costumes weren't particularly revealing most of the time (except for Audrey Landers in that one episode), while the men were often in fairly revealing wardrobe, e.g. the outfits they wore for that trampoline-based sport. There seems to be a similar approach going on here, aside from the women still being in miniskirts.
Yes, absolutely. I never thought the man's (David Gautreax?) costume was supposed to be a Starfleet uniform. It's exactly what I would have expected from a seventies Trek series.
I'm sure it's not supposed to be an engineer's costume! It's presumably just for lighting and camera tests.
I'm sure it's not supposed to be an engineer's costume! It's presumably just for lighting and camera tests.
Okay, but why put the woman in a Starfleet uniform and the man in that weird bell-bottomed overalls thing? I doubt it was just something he threw on. It looks like a '70s take on futuristic clothing. So I wonder what purpose it was meant to serve, if it wasn't meant as a uniform.
Casual wear?
Thiess created that overall as the new working outfit, like the old coveralls in TOS. He created a whole slew of potential updates to the standard uniform, including changing the pant bottoms to have a V-slit, much like the TNG jumpsuits.
James Cawley, former fan film producer and owner of the Star Trek Tour in upstate NY, owns several of these Star Trek II (70s show) costumes.
Our dearly departed member GSchnitzer (who worked on the fan series New Voyages/Phase II) discussed them in this old BBS post:
For Phase II, there were the "regular" uniforms that are so nearly identical to TOS costumes that you probably wouldn't notice they were the Phase II versions. You'd really have to know what to look for. So you can probably just call them TOS uniforms. (The collar was a bit higher and the pants cuffs were bucaneer-style.)
There were short sleeve shirts that look a lot like McCoy's blue lab smock. These casual uniforms came in all three colors.
There's a set of bib overalls--like right out of "Hee Haw." They come in all three colors, too.
There is a smock which is worn over a black T-shirt; this also comes in all three colors and they have a front and back, but no real sides to them. (It's a little hard to explain, but they are somewhat like a sandwich board.) They just have a small black band on each side down towards the waist that disappears against the black t-shirt; they sort of holds the front and back together a bit.
There's a woman's short sleeve uniform. It's pretty much identical to the regular TOS women's uniform, except that it's, well, short-sleeved. And by short, I mean really short (although it's not quite a tank top). They are split cap sleeves.
There were also some jumpsuits.
Lastly, there was a new woman's dress unform that included a shrug.
A close up of one of the command-colored overalls: https://www.flickr.com/photos/coastermadmatt/29531973204/in/photostream/
And several of these prototype Star Trek II (70s show) uniforms were auctioned off: https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-4780496
https://www.icollector.com/Star-Trek-Phase-II-Starfleet-Engineering-Smock_i15604086
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See, that's what I was thinking. It was meant to be an engineer's work clothes, which makes it odd that it leaves the arms and shoulders so exposed, since that doesn't seem all that safe. Is it, like, as hot as a boiler room in engineering? Well, with a matter-antimatter reactor right there in the middle of the chamber, maybe that makes sense.
I can't wait for Scotty to wear one.
You mean Triad? That was more a rollerderby/basketball/waterpolo-without-the-pool mashup. Suits by Wrestlers-R-Us.
Oh, I'm probably thinking of that episode of The Prisoner that had an indoor sport based on trampolines.
Yeah, in the original series, the ball game was triad and the card game was pyramid, and in the reboot, they flipped the names around for some reason.
Although it's neat to ponder "what if?", I'm really glad that things worked out the way they did and we were delivered the Trek we got, the good and the bad. It's easy to see that if Phase II was produced, at least the visual style of Trek would've taken a very different trajectory. Although, they'd probably have pivoted to what we eventually got anyway, much like they pivoted after the pajamas and pastels of TMP to settle on the more grounded militaristic looks of TWOK-TUC. And similarly how they pivoted after the slightly more fantasy look of TNG S1 and S2 for the later seasons.
“Our dearly departed member GSchnitzer (who worked on the fan series New Voyages/Phase II) discussed them…
A close up of one of the command-colored overalls: “
https://www.flickr.com/photos/coastermadmatt/29531973204/in/photostream/
Now in TOS they wore black t-shirts underneath to fill them out. This all does have an NBC look. I used to be able to tell what channel I was watching by the hue. A yellow tint would have made this pop I think.
A close up of one of the command-colored overalls: “
https://www.flickr.com/photos/coastermadmatt/29531973204/in/photostream/
Now in TOS they wore black t-shirts underneath to fill them out. This all does have an NBC look. I used to be able to tell what channel I was watching by the hue. A yellow tint would have made this pop I think.
A quick google search shows PK wearing a black tee with the red one. His SO also wears a black tee with the blue one. Not sure if the PDAs violate the Google pix rules so folks can do their own search.
We got a glimpse of Phase II something out of a comic a little while ago. Would have loved to see more of that world.
Just wanted to add in this thread that I'm still eagerly anticipating the white Trek 4 bridge
Just wanted to add in this thread that I'm still eagerly anticipating the white Trek 4 bridge
Like I said in my other thread, that is much more a possibility now than it was a year or two agoWe got a glimpse of Phase II something out of a comic a little while ago. Would have loved to see more of that world.
Just wanted to add in this thread that I'm still eagerly anticipating the white Trek 4 bridge
