Disney helping to pay for the production of Doctor Who going forward doesn't give them any degree of ownership of the IP.
Doctor Who moving to Disney+ in 2023
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Disney helping to pay for the production of Doctor Who going forward doesn't give them any degree of ownership of the IP.
For now, maybe.
But anytime money is involved, it most certainly results in creative inputs and wars for creative control.
Especially when you're dealing with Disney.
But anytime money is involved, it most certainly results in creative inputs and wars for creative control.
Especially when you're dealing with Disney.
Believe whatever you want, because facts clearly aren't going to change your mind here.
Sir, don't you realize this is the internet?! Uninformed outrage is what this land was built upon! There's no room here for calm, rational thought!
Call me crazy, but I suspect this thing with BBC and Disney is one of those grown-up business things that involve paperwork and contracts and lawyers and clearly defined roles and responsibilities for the parties involved. It's not like Disney is pretending to give money no strings attached and then showing up at night and saying, okay, pally, if you know what's good for you you're going to do what we want.
Like the fact that Tennant isn't going to be playing the 14th doctor? Or the fact that there aren't multiple timelines in Westworld season 1? Or the fact that Daenerys was going to become the mad queen in Game of Thrones? All things you denied when others told you how things were. Perhaps you could learn from that and cease grand pronouncements of fact. It is very likely Disney will have some creative input in the new season if they want to exercise it.
I never said otherwise
One thing to bear in mind is that if Disney paid a non-trivial amount of money into this production season, they did so when it was commissioned a year ago. The Tennant specials are in the can and production on Gatwa’s episodes is imminent if not already underway; Disney isn’t just making a co-production deal now.
Something else to remember... Bad Wolf is owned by Sony. Sony has been in bed with Disney for a few years now, which is why Disney was able to do Spiderman films.
This is another avenue that Disney can quietly get more creative control.
This is another avenue that Disney can quietly get more creative control.
I wouldn't hold my breath. Shorter seasons are en vogue these days, and none of the seasons of Disney+'s MCU shows have had more than ten episodes. And with their Star Wars shows, only Andor and the animated shows have gone beyond ten.
IIRC, we've already seen pictures of the console room set under construction.
You know, thinking about it, does this depend on which of Disney's many faces is getting involved? They were content to more or less leave Marvel to do their own thing, whilst diving pretty deep into how the new Star Wars films were shaped. Maybe, with Doctor Who being a well-established, successful IP in its own right, they won't interfere? There won't be a reason to, after all.
STAR WARS was a very well established, successful thing before Disney bought it and meddled. I don't think we can go by that barometer.
Another thing is that a substantial investment in proportion to Doctor Who’s budget is not necessarily a substantial investment by Disney standards. They’re not spending Marvel or Star Wars levels of money here.
You responded to a post above about creative input saying it won't happen.
No, I didn't.
Yeah, ya kinda did. He said these arrangements result in either creative input or wars for creative control, and you said that was contrary to the facts.
Pot. Kettle. Black.
You can't just come into a thread and assume you know the context of what is being talked about.
I never said that Disney won't have creative control, not in the post you quoted or in any of the posts that preceded it, and my comment about facts was in relation strictly to the assumption that Disney can use their money to buy a majority controlling creative interest in the program, which they can't.
That is not in any way, shape, or form a denial of their having creative control, and is in fact an acknowledgment that they may very well have some creative input.
Forthcoming seasons of Doctor Who will be a co-production between Disney Branded Television, Bad Wolf Studios, and the BBC, and while it is highly likely that being a co-producer of the program is going to come with at least some degree of creative input for Disney Branded Television and/or Disney+, the known facts of the partnership agreement negotiated between Disney and the BBC do not in any way support the notion that Disney helping to pay for the production of the program is going to somehow elevate the degree to which they are involved with the creative direction of the program to a level that is higher than that of Bad Wolf Studios and the BBC.
Disney owns Marvel and Star Wars.
BBC owns Doctor Who.
What Disney does with properties it owns outright is not necessarily relevant to what it can do with something it only has distribution rights for.