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Doctor Who moving to Disney+ in 2023

What's the principle?

The insatiable level of greed they have shown over the years. Great example is no free trial when literally EVERYONE else does it. I'm also not a fan of monopolies. (Despite loving the actual board game.) How Disney got away with owning TWO of the Big 4 broadcasting networks is beyond me. (From what I understand, it was illegal in the U.S. for a company to own more than one of the big ones because it would end up being a monopoly.)


Since Hulu isn't available outside the US, its content instead ends up on the Disney+ outlets in other countries.

I didn't realize Hulu was U.S. only. That would explain how having THE ORVILLE on Disney as well as Hulu can help for a possible 4th season.
 
The insatiable level of greed they have shown over the years. Great example is no free trial when literally EVERYONE else does it. I'm also not a fan of monopolies. (Despite loving the actual board game.) How Disney got away with owning TWO of the Big 4 broadcasting networks is beyond me. (From what I understand, it was illegal in the U.S. for a company to own more than one of the big ones because it would end up being a monopoly.)




I didn't realize Hulu was U.S. only. That would explain how having THE ORVILLE on Disney as well as Hulu can help for a possible 4th season.
It‘s a two-sided issue with the Disney machine.
On the one side they destroy the competition by throwing money at everything.
On the other side they work at a level of production quality that is two steps above everyone else.
 
The future of BritBox is not wholly clear - it is being folded into ITV's streaming platform and the BBC are pulling out. There's no suggestion that their content will be removed yet, but I don't think it's certain it'll stay beyond the current licencing deals.

It would be odd to have the BBC's flagship shows on an ITV-branded platform.

What does this mean for Classic Who? In an ideal world it would align to the new episodes, so everything would be on Disney+ internationally and iPlayer in the UK.

We'll have to see what happens.
In an additional wrinkle, ownership of Britbox is different based on which country you’re talking about; the BBC still owns half of every version except the UK one, so they may keep their content on those versions.
 
The insatiable level of greed they have shown over the years. Great example is no free trial when literally EVERYONE else does it. I'm also not a fan of monopolies. (Despite loving the actual board game.) How Disney got away with owning TWO of the Big 4 broadcasting networks is beyond me. (From what I understand, it was illegal in the U.S. for a company to own more than one of the big ones because it would end up being a monopoly.)
Greed? If that's how you want to put it.
Greed would be licensing or broadcasting limited shows, asking a high subscription cost and not giving you anything in return.
This year and last year, Disney released four NEW Marvel streaming shows, of which a couple are having second seasons made, two feature films this year; four NEW Star Wars shows this year and three new seasons or shows last year, plus all the new Disney and Pixar stuff I haven't been following.
Giving you ~8 new seasons of Marvel & Star Wars TV shows a year for only $8.99 a month (with an estimated back of the napkin cumulative production budget of ~$1.1 billion) hardly sounds like greed to me.
But to each their own.
 
Damn greedy Disney with their $10 a month subscription
If it's something you really can't afford, borrow a friends account. Or do what everyone else on the internet does when they want a show that they don't subscribe to.

You called Disney greedy, too. And then you post that they are not greedy. (I quoted it below.)

I'm getting mixed messages from you.


Greed? If that's how you want to put it.
Greed would be licensing or broadcasting limited shows, asking a high subscription cost and not giving you anything in return.
This year and last year, Disney released four NEW Marvel streaming shows, of which a couple are having second seasons made, two feature films this year; four NEW Star Wars shows this year and three new seasons or shows last year, plus all the new Disney and Pixar stuff I haven't been following.
Giving you ~8 new seasons of Marvel & Star Wars TV shows a year for only $8.99 a month (with an estimated back of the napkin cumulative production budget of ~$1.1 billion) hardly sounds like greed to me.
But to each their own.
 
You called Disney greedy, too. And then you post that they are not greedy. (I quoted it below.)

I'm getting mixed messages from you.
It's called SARCASM

To be clear, all corporation are greedy; otherwise they would be forced to close rather than continue in whatever profitable ventures they choose. To use greed as a reason for not supporting a company that has content you want amuses me.
@matthunter
 
In an additional wrinkle, ownership of Britbox is different based on which country you’re talking about; the BBC still owns half of every version except the UK one, so they may keep their content on those versions.
Yes, good point, the international versions seem to be totally different!
 
I didn't realize it was sarcasm with the first post. One of the dangers of texts vs. talking.

I'll agree most corporations are greedy, but I've found the bigger a company gets, the more greedy they become. There's a lot of smaller companies out there that are not just about greed. Many are about missions as well as turning profit... like helping clear out excess waste, lowering carbon footprint, feeding people in need, money for children going through cancer... the list is huge.

And let me clarify my position... the greed of Disney I am referring to is the greed of swallowing up all content out there, leaving no competition. That's a monopoly, and that is not good in the grand scheme of things.

Disney was already a massive business before they bagged STAR WARS. That apparently wasn't enough, so they nabbed MARVEL. And owning not one, but TWO of the biggest tv networks in the U.S. Where does it stop? Owning entire countries?

(Which honestly, at the rate gigantic companies like Amazon, Google, Pfizer, etc. are doing things, we're only a stone's throw away from that becoming a reality. Think CONTINUUM, a scifi show starring Rachel Nichols, and the 'Corporate Congress' in that future. We have already had big companies dictating policies to politicians for decades now. Next step is just outright coming out and taking full reign.)
 
But at the same time, what people really object to is having to take out a different subscription for each show they want to watch, so in some ways a monopoly would actually be quite convenient for consumers in this scenario.

Streaming is essentially a crowded field of competing monopolies, whereas in the past they were fighting for a spot on a small number of networks or terrestrial channels.
 
Well you could just subscribe monthly, watch Who and then quit two months later.
Yes, I'm aware I could do that, but for various reasons I'm not keen to do so. Given there have been a couple of major hacks here in the past couple of months - both involving organisations that have my data - I'm becoming increasingly concerned about the number of organisations that have my personal info on file and keep it even after I'm no longer using the "service" they provide. It's a (potential) hassle I can really do without. But each to their own.

This is precisely why I have dvd box sets... once you own it, it's yours for good. Never have to worry about streaming rights or ads or anything.
Agreed. It's great to be able to watch whatever I want, whenever I want, without being subject to the whims of whatever streaming service may or may not have the thing I want to watch available at the time. It's the major downfall of streaming services IMO...but that's another thread altogether.
 
But at the same time, what people really object to is having to take out a different subscription for each show they want to watch, so in some ways a monopoly would actually be quite convenient for consumers in this scenario.
bingo

Right now in the US, I believe you need Brtibox to see classic Who, HBO Max to see older nu Who and BBC America (maybe AMC+?) to watch new nuWho when it airs. And I'm sure BBC America isn't airing it out of a sense of benevolence.
 
Very, very disappointing news today.

Since I was a little kid, probably the same age as my grandkids now, I watched Dr Who in (Aust) ABC TV. But this new agreement with the BBC excludes Australia, so you now have to have Disney+. Which we don't.

Not. Happy.
At. All.
 
I wish that was the same in the UK. I can never remember my iPlayer password.
Also, I could cut terrestrial tv off and not pay for a TV license. I don’t really watch it now anyway.
 
^^^I got rid of Uk terrestrial Tv a few years back and have been very happy to just buy the boxsets of the few UK shows that are not soaps, selling or buying junk, food shows and reality TV. lol
 
The mouse will be footing the budget.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1585490664376115201


RTD will retain creative vision but Disney will give the show vast budgets beyond the BBC’s means, allowing for more cinematic production values & more stars.



We're getting closer to this reality


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