My wife has seen every Trek film and she didn't understand the 2009 film, much to my frustration. She thought Prime Spock was Kelvins Spock's dad.
Do you want the Kelvin Universe to continue?
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My wife has seen every Trek film and she didn't understand the 2009 film, much to my frustration. She thought Prime Spock was Kelvins Spock's dad.
I just want something that confirms that Kelvinverse was always an alternate universe and that Nero and Spock never messed with the past of the Prime Universe at all, and then I don't care what they do with the Kelvinverse for the rest of forever.
Then a book about how the ressurected Shatnerverse Kirk goes to the Kelvinverse to save Spock and bring him back to his own Universe before he dies. That would be cool.
Then a book about how the ressurected Shatnerverse Kirk goes to the Kelvinverse to save Spock and bring him back to his own Universe before he dies. That would be cool.
Discovery season 3 "Terra Firma"1 explicitly says it's an alternate timeline created by the temporal incursion of a Romulan mining ship. Here's the scene:
Happy?
No, because it had to have been a pre-existing universe that Spock traverses to, and alters dramatically, but it was not CREATED by time travel. Thats not how time travel in the Trek universe works. Is there really a multiverse, where there is a "nazi's won" universe and a "klingon's won" universe and a "whale probe destroys the earth" universe and a "borg took over everything" universe....... rather than destroying the narrative of literally ever time travel story ever, I would have liked to see it set in stone as an actual parallel universe; Like the Mirror, it was always in existence. This is actually the exact opposite of what I was looking for.
Just want to point out that there is no "how time travel in the Trek universe works". We see so many different means and types of time travel, from time loops, to multiverse style dimension hopping, branching timelines. This is because the writers write whatever they want for the story they want to tell. Whatever works, works. In this case, an alternate timeline (for all intents and purposes, a new parallel universe) is created by the temporal incursion of a Romulan mining ship.
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This is a canonical Trek production, they decide how it works. And they've changed their minds about it multiple times - remember Spock beaming Captain Christopher into his earlier self to somehow fix everything in "Return to Tomorrow"? Or the nonsensical weirdness of "Time Squared" where two Picards couldn't co-exist? Or all of "The Alternative Factor"? The weird time travel visions in The Voyage Home? Time travel works however they want it to for whatever story they're telling at the time, then changes for the next writer.
Looking for consistency in Trek time travel is a lesson in madness.
And I'm generally happy with the way it's been presented, in the main. The way it was depicted for 2009 worked perfectly for that movie.
And that, theoretically, should be enough.
I agree, but why is The Alternative Factor in this list?
Because of the weirdness of an antimatter universe destroying our one, yet an antimatter version of Lazarus being able to travel to ours without any exploding. A very different interpretation of alternate universes than we'd get later in "Mirror, Mirror" which would become the blueprint.
I really wish we got an animated series a la Peter Markowski's artwork...
https://www.coroflot.com/pitakow/Star-Trek-The-Animated-Series-Pitch-material
https://www.coroflot.com/pitakow/Star-Trek-The-Animated-Series-Pitch-material
Within transporter range of the nexus, for a Shatner-Kirk pick up, in that last one. 
Oh man, I had no idea this pitch existed. This is gorgeous.I really wish we got an animated series a la Peter Markowski's artwork...
https://www.coroflot.com/pitakow/Star-Trek-The-Animated-Series-Pitch-material
If the fourth movie could go back in time and make the first three not happen then I am all for it 
That would be a tragic use of time travel. So, probably Trek will use it.
I will keep my 09 DVDs close just in case
I will keep my 09 DVDs close just in case
reminds me of when ST09 came out and Orci asked about if the primeverse was still there and he made a joke saying yeah its ok your DvDs wont disappear..That would be a tragic use of time travel. So, probably Trek will use it.
I will keep my 09 DVDs close just in case
now its the opposite!
just shows alot can happen in 10 years (or not in the kelvinverse's case!)
I have the same attitude in 09 as I do now-I enjoy it and it sits right there on my shelf. The constant hand wringing over media being ruined is an obsession that I do not grasp anymore. I think I got mad once at an adaptation I didn't like. Then I reread the book and discovered that I still enjoyed the book. If personal enjoyment of media can be ruined by one installment then I have some serious questions about what was enjoyable in the first place.
But why would it matter?If the fourth movie could go back in time and make the first three not happen then I am all for it
If you don't want to see three movies, you can make them "go away" by simply not watching them again. You don't really need someone else to go to all the time and expense of making a movie which does that for you.
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