No. If they had this discussion wouldn't arise repeatedly.
do you think TOS should have been remastered?
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From my experience, agreement is rare on anything, so I don't agree that disagreement is evidence that I'm wrong. If you have counters to the specific points I made, that would be evidence.
You think it's peachy. Nice for you. I think it's crap and thats all I need to know.
i think most of the remastered effects look alright, but i definitely agree that a lot of them are... out of place, to say the least. i think i'll always prefer the original models over cgi.
The original effects are still the best! Except for those green atlas globes that are supposed to be the Earth! The other planets look fine to me!
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Yeah. In truth there aren't many f/x in TOS that don't come off well, but those Earth globes screamed cheap. That and the obvious AMT kit represnting the Constellation.
Lost in Space did quite a good planet earth as I recall but that old Constellation model, especially at the end of the show, which was one of the very best, looked terrible didn't it!
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I've bought some "digitally remastered" DVDs where "digital' must have men they'd used a finger to start the VCR when the disc was made!
The miniature fx and the music scores were so good, they kept all but the very worst LIS episodes afloat!
Sorry, but Doomsday Machine looks completely wrong WITHOUT the AMT Constellation. Yes, there are some shots where it screams that this is a plastic model ship(mainly shakiness). A little clean up could fix that . However, change the design from the AMT to a *copy-paste* of the Enterprise and it will look horrible no matter how shiny the effects are.
Yes. It's a shame Lost in Space was so campy. Everyone knows, you never go full campy.
Yes. It's a shame Lost in Space was so campy. Everyone knows, you never go full campy.
My answer to the original Thread question, Should Star Trek have been remastered?
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Now that's cool!
Oh, yeah! If it had been done like that it would have been awesome.My answer to the original Thread question, Should Star Trek have been remastered?
It's the idea thats noteworthy because under actual conditions the 11 footer would be lit differently than it is on didplay in the Smithsonian. Nonetheless it doesn't look flat like TOS-R.
So, a few years back after seeing the "Tribbles and Tribulations" episode on DS9 I said "That is what Star Trek original needs. Just have some fun with more modern effects on the space shots."
Star Trek Remastered came out and I LOVED IT.
I was watching "All Our Yesterdays" and I loved how the sun goes supernova and the planet is shown destroyed in the shockwave. Awesome.
As someone said, both copies are available so a win for all. I think they did a awesome and respectful job on the material, only adding when something was described or inferred in the script. That was a nice touch.
Star Trek Remastered came out and I LOVED IT.
I was watching "All Our Yesterdays" and I loved how the sun goes supernova and the planet is shown destroyed in the shockwave. Awesome.As someone said, both copies are available so a win for all. I think they did a awesome and respectful job on the material, only adding when something was described or inferred in the script. That was a nice touch.
But not exactly bad for a few minutes work to demonstrate the repair work.
Under studio conditions of course it work look significantly better, this was one lighting pass rather than the multiple used and composited for filming work.
There's also the odd robotic focus on the Enterprise being too linear, but a subtle curve could be added by panning a camera for proper episodic work.
As for All Our Yesterdays, the supernova shot is terrible. Not for the wow factor because that was a treat for the few moments it took to see the real issue, much like the Gorn.
Light takes 8.5 minutes to reach Earth from Sol, any planet in an M-class "Goldilocks Zone" would be equivlanetly around 1.5 AU from a Yellow Dwark star, to develop a human like race.
A Mass Coronal Ejection travels at slower than the speed of light, it should have taken hours for a physical shockwave to reach the planet and flay the surface, not even breaking it apart as we saw. That would take something more like the Hobus event in ST2009.
Generations used the McGuffin of Trilithium to have the CME travel roughly at the speed of light so that it reached planets and stations several minutes (Worf said 8-12 minutes for Viridian) later, even they didn't have an explosion that inexplicable.
That was sloppy.
The TOS-R supernova was compressed to fit the allotted time. It's a dramatic portrayal of what happened, not a piece real-time camera footage taken from another spacecraft. The football analogy would be when they speed up part of an instant replay to save time.
Note that the original fx shot also showed the planet being snuffed out in seconds, so you'd have to argue that that was terrible too.
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