Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?

[F. King Daniel]

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Tamara Deverell: For the Enterprise, we based it initially off of The Original Series. We were really drawing a lot of our materials from that. And then we particularly went to more of the Star Trek movies, which is a little bit fatter, a little bit bigger. Overall, I think we expanded the length of it to be within the world of our Discovery, which is bigger, so we did cheat it as a larger ship.

The world of Discovery isn't the world of TOS. Discussion over?

 

[fireproof78]

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Tamara Deverell: For the Enterprise, we based it initially off of The Original Series. We were really drawing a lot of our materials from that. And then we particularly went to more of the Star Trek movies, which is a little bit fatter, a little bit bigger. Overall, I think we expanded the length of it to be within the world of our Discovery, which is bigger, so we did cheat it as a larger ship.

The world of Discovery isn't the world of TOS. Discussion over?

Nope.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Nope.

Then how do you explain Tamara's comments? This is someone who actually worked on the show telling you their world isn't the same one was the original Star Trek.

 

[Gonzo]

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Tamara Deverell: For the Enterprise, we based it initially off of The Original Series. We were really drawing a lot of our materials from that. And then we particularly went to more of the Star Trek movies, which is a little bit fatter, a little bit bigger. Overall, I think we expanded the length of it to be within the world of our Discovery, which is bigger, so we did cheat it as a larger ship.

The world of Discovery isn't the world of TOS. Discussion over?

Best to wait for the second season to really answer the question, ship size changes aren't really enough to decide alone as we know why they made the change.

I don't mind either way myself.

 

[fireproof78]

Then how do you explain Tamara's comments? This is someone who actually worked on the show telling you their world isn't the same one was the original Star Trek.

I have no idea. I just know the discussion will never end.

Just like the idea that Abrams' movies destroyed Prime Timeline that continues to get bandied about from time to time.

I don't care one way or the other, as it works for me both ways. But, if alternate reality grants them more creative freedom, more power to them. Please, be creative with Star Trek.

 

[BillJ]

Nope.

How can it be the same world if the ship isn't the same size?

 

[cooleddie74]

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Tamara Deverell: For the Enterprise, we based it initially off of The Original Series. We were really drawing a lot of our materials from that. And then we particularly went to more of the Star Trek movies, which is a little bit fatter, a little bit bigger. Overall, I think we expanded the length of it to be within the world of our Discovery, which is bigger, so we did cheat it as a larger ship.

The world of Discovery isn't the world of TOS. Discussion over?

It's still Prime Trek, it's just that now the Enterprise will be a ridiculous length because "bigger = kewler."

 

[fireproof78]

How can it be the same world if the ship isn't the same size?

Seriously?

My "Nope" was in response to @King Daniel Beyond's question of "Discussion over?"

It was tongue and cheek and apparently needed a disclaimer. I will strive to be more clear in my sarcastic remarks.

 

[BillJ]

It's still Prime Trek, it's just that now the Enterprise will be a ridiculous length because "bigger = kewler."

I think they are just doing the whole "removing the band-aid" thing slowly instead of ripping it off all at once. As the show evolves, it will continue to move farther and farther away from "Prime".

 

[cooleddie74]

We're going to need a lot more whiskey than this.

 

[BillJ]

Or, at some point, they will declare TOS is no longer part of the official continuity. Which makes sense as Burnham has already achieved nearly everything Spock did in his career in a season. Soon, he'll just be seen throughout Starfleet as Michael Burnham's little brother.

 

[cooleddie74]

I'm going to try to keep having faith of the heart.

Ah. That's better.

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[cultcross]

How can it be the same world if the ship isn't the same size?

Same way it's the same world regardless of what magical Vulcan powers Spock has this week. Trek's never been consistent, especially in the TOS era, yet has always claimed a consistent universe. There has always been some degree of suspension of disbelief in that department. Ship size is one of the easiest ones to ignore for me given that I never even notice it anyway. I'm not even sure how people notice it if I'm honest.

 

[Tuskin38]

Strictly speaking the Connie never had a canon length.

 

[Tuskin38]

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Tamara Deverell: For the Enterprise, we based it initially off of The Original Series. We were really drawing a lot of our materials from that. And then we particularly went to more of the Star Trek movies, which is a little bit fatter, a little bit bigger. Overall, I think we expanded the length of it to be within the world of our Discovery, which is bigger, so we did cheat it as a larger ship.

The world of Discovery isn't the world of TOS. Discussion over?

Aaron Harberts: The idea was to always be in the Prime Timeline. Obviously, there are questions and concerns and things that are different. Our technology is a little different. We have a ship that runs very differently. We are our own show in a lot of ways. Season two is really exciting for us. This is our opportunity to really show how Discovery fits into this Prime Timeline. We are firmly committed to that.

Gretchen J. Berg: Well, we are in the same timeline. This is the prime universe and we are pretty close to when TOS happens.

 

[Tuskin38]

Skimming Memory Alpha for fanwank references does not mean that they respected canon at all.

There are fans working on the show, they don't need to skim Memory-Alpha except for obscure stuff

 

[cooleddie74]

Strictly speaking the Connie never had a canon length.

Well, not officially spoken nor shown in a graphic onscreen. But the production materials published in the late 1960s "The Making Of Star Trek" book do show that the Enterprise was about 949 feet long (289 meters). The official length of the ship never made it into the series but the producers did have a set size they wanted her to be along with the Klingon D7 battle cruiser.

 

[Shamrock Holmes]

How can it be the same world if the ship isn't the same size?

The Defiant and the Klingon Bird-of-Prey say hi.

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/defiant-problems.htm

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/bop-size.htm

The BoP especially isn't even entirely consistent within individual episodes or movies. For instance, the visual effects for STIV give 2-3 different lengths depending on which evidence you use.

 

[Racer_X]

Well, not officially spoken nor shown in a graphic onscreen. But the production materials published in the late 1960s "The Making Of Star Trek" book do show that the Enterprise was about 949 feet long (289 meters). The official length of the ship never made it into the series but the producers did have a set size they wanted her to be along with the Klingon D7 battle cruiser.

Ah, not true! The length of the Enterprise can be seen on the tri-screen monitor in "The Enterprise Incident". This, and the images in "The Making of Star Trek", were presumably drawn by Matt Jefferies, the guy who designed the Enterprise, so I would think he would know a thing or two about the length of the ship.

 

[cultcross]

In the future, we use feet. Canon.