Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?
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That is the question, isn't it?
The two races makes zero sense and is a fan theory for a real world make up change.
What we saw had hair, the first Idea and how they evolved did not.And being bald is am minor change. Not like what you are talking about.
There is no debate, its not canon.
Its a real life make up change. It changes a single line in canon. That is it, One line.
Fairly easy to imagine - the Gorn are spacefaring, and capable of landing personnel on alien worlds. We all know how unnamed crewmen fair on such expeditions. Doesn't take too much to imagine a skeleton or two are floating around as curiosities.
In the case of the tribbles, they weren't an unknown species or impossible to get at. The problem with the Horta is that Lorca could not have obtained one period; in the "Devil in the Dar" (TOS) show, it's established that thousands of years before DSC the Horta underwent their last round of all but one dying and that the survivor taking care of the eggs. Seeing as there's only one Horta, that indicates that the eggs didn't start hatching until the TOS show. Then, years after DSC, the Janus IV mining colony digs into the Horta's levels for the very first time, setting off the story. The point is, Lorca cannot have a baby Horta since there are no unhatched baby Horta around for him to collect, anymore than one could get an iPhone in 1970. (Even if there were hatched baby Horta digging around, Lorca couldn't get at one, since there was no access to the tunnels yet.) Does that make any sense why Lorca's Horta is a continuity error?
Species don't just change and go back like that. Besides, keeping the same makeup for a fictional species helps build the suspension of disbelief.
I agree, but, as Rule of Acquisition # 76 says: "Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies."
The behind the scenes explanation doesn't, but, as I've admitted, "word of God" is not canon; I'm just worried about what the future will bring with the mindset that the change was made in.
Like I said, let's not start this again.
No, it also changes years worth of footage.
I'm not sure why this is so important.
Its a minor change that changes single line in canon. Its just being Bald, is not as if they now have 4 arms, 3 genders and speak in riddles.
There is nothing to start, canon is on screen only.
And this is s relevant as Vulcans no longer been green
This is Star Trek. The Klingons went from smooth, to bumpy, without explanation...period. The entertainment value of Trek didn't suffer, nor did the fans some how miss out because the Klingons were not exactly the same as TOS.
There are plenty of explanations that could suffice-I've listed them all exhaustively.
Just show some Augment Klingons with smooth foreheads and TNG-style warriors. That's all they have to do. Acknowledge the others and thus establish that the Klingon Empire is a diverse civilization with lots of different ethnic groups and subgroups that look a certain way depending on where in the Empire you were born and live.
Keep your California Raisin Klingons with lockjaw. Just show others because we know as firmly set in the canon of no fewer than three different Trek series that at least some Klingons in this era looked more human. That's all they have to do. It won't ruin their narrative. It wouldn't shut everybody up and would just make other fans explode with rage, but it would be the best and easiest solution.
And they have yet to do it.
It doesn't mean they won't, but based on the track record of these producers I wouldn't hold my breath for long.
Keep your California Raisin Klingons with lockjaw. Just show others because we know as firmly set in the canon of no fewer than three different Trek series that at least some Klingons in this era looked more human. That's all they have to do. It won't ruin their narrative. It wouldn't shut everybody up and would just make other fans explode with rage, but it would be the best and easiest solution.
And they have yet to do it.
It doesn't mean they won't, but based on the track record of these producers I wouldn't hold my breath for long.
Why are folks hung up on the 'Bald' factor...
It's not like we haven't seen something similar before...
https://goo.gl/images/NDNemt
(why is it so GD complicated to insert pics nowadays?)
It's not like we haven't seen something similar before...
https://goo.gl/images/NDNemt
(why is it so GD complicated to insert pics nowadays?)
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Bald Klingons happen. But these look and sound f'ing ugly and some hair might help make them look more palatable as a new makeup design.
Why are folks hung up on the 'Bald' factor...
It's not like we haven't seen something similar before...
https://goo.gl/images/NDNemt
(why is it so GD complicated to insert pics nowadays?)
Make sure you use the URL directly to the image you wish to post and it should work.
It could lead to a canon violation depending on how it's handled in the future (from a show that was said to follow canon).
See above.
Then please, let it be.
That sounds important.
A.) An explanation was given. B.) Entertainment value and internal consistency are different things
To be honest, I'm inclined to accept the DSC Klingons as a variation at this point (even if I feel that the mindset behind the change is in error). If anything, Lorca's Horta (man, I love saying that), is a better example of DSC breaking its own rules on continuity.
25 years later.
It's the only way to be sure that there won't be any disgraceful hair pulling during hand-to-hand combat! Imagine the dishonor!
At this point I'm less interested in arguing about Klingon Foreheads than I am something else. Foreheads are Old Hat. But the male Klingon anatomy as revealed in "Will You Take My Hand?" Since it's revealed that male Klingons have two "organs", does this mean that AshVoq was forced to become half the man he used to be?
And Kor, Koloth, and Kang. Do they only have one in TOS and have more than one in DS9... or are they half-unics?
It also gives a whole new meaning to Sisko telling Worf and Dax to try to not break any bones.
And Kor, Koloth, and Kang. Do they only have one in TOS and have more than one in DS9... or are they half-unics?
It also gives a whole new meaning to Sisko telling Worf and Dax to try to not break any bones.
They eventually learned that shaving their bodies left them with a weaker immune system. Many Klingons were catching the Levodian flu, sometimes during the month of Kahless! Since they absolutely despise having to get the flu shot, growing their hair became fashionable again.
Does that mean that Klingon women have two vaginas?
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