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Poll Do you consider Discovery to truly be in the Prime Timeline at this point?
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Official first contact, yes. But as both the Ferengi and the Borg proved official first contact and earlier, random encounters in deep space that were either forgotten or classified for varying reasons can be very different things.
He also had a baby Horta preserved under a display case. As far as we know nobody in the Federation even knows what a Horta is until 2267, not even the colonists and miners on Janus VI at this point in time. Mirror Lorca apparently had access to specimens from at least two species that no Starfleet officer will see with their own eyes for another decade or more.
Fair enough. (There was also the Ananar thing a couple years back, too.)
So, how could he get a Gorn skeleton prior to first contact?
Impossible; the Horta eggs hadn't hatched yet, and the tunnels that they lived in hadn't been accessed yet. There were no Horta around for Lorca to have in his collection.
For all their telling us that the "Code is the law," they're pretty deep in the "guidelines, not rules" train of thought in regards to canon.
Healthiest way to approach canon in any case.
Yep, this is fine as well, I simply was stating what I would have done. Nothing drastic mind you, but something that says "I evolved on a near water-less world and I am not human" As I said, Spock would not have to be touched as he is a half breed, but I would have like to see some minimal changes, maybe some nice contacts or Nictitating Membrane over the eyes or showing nostrils closing or something.
The trills and half a dozen other races got redesigns, even the Andorrans and tellarite have been reworked a few times. And as of now, Nope the Klingons are in fact Bald. This can not be "factually wrong" as they are in charge of startrek. It can be and is a retcon, but it can not be incorrect.
Your opinion is not worth a shit. You move the goal and are a hypocrite.
Which is a healthy way to approach, and does wonder for the blood pressure.
Was that really necessary?
And if Klingons with hair show up next season?
There are Klingons with some hair in the T’Kuvma comic, which was written by one of the show writers. That doesn’t make it canon obviously, but it shows that one of the writers consider that they exist.
Then there are bald Klingons and Klingons with hair. Which, brings us back to square one that these are, in fact, Klingons.
Then they are no longer bald, likely those damned augments, ya know, human half breeds contaminated with that vile hair.
I wasn’t arguing about that
Likely not, but he is every where on this. You can't change races!, except those don't count!
Yes, and he's irritating you. Don't take the bait.
I know he addressed you with a personal remark, but it was mostly a commentary on your argument so far. Your post escalates the rhetoric and was even more personal. Please refrain from doing so again and cool off (that goes for everyone). This isn't worth getting a warning over.
Well, the suspension of disbelief can be half the fun sometimes. Besides, if the series was going to take a "canon only counts on occasion" approach to the series, I wish that they had been upfront about that instead of going on record that it would fit the prime universe like a glove. (Which is my main annoyance. I'd be up for a Star Trek show that was essentially in it's own continuity where changes would make sense, but once we have to fit conflicting information into a preexisting universe despite being assured that it all fits gets me annoyed. The show wants to have its cake and eat it too -- be a part of preexisting continuity but not have to follow the established rules. Pick one, stick with it, and be straight with us what the frak you're doing.)
Not as drastically, IMHO (except for the Trill and I'm willing to let that side with "two races" personally).
Then what's the point of trying to connect it to the other TV shows if they don't make sense together? I could cite basically hundreds of sources showing that Klingons are not naturally bald, sources that the Powers That Be have still said counted.
Okay, I'd like to see that get into the TV show, but good enough for me. (Now, if they'd explain the Horta that cannot be...)
TMP did it. It broke that for me, and that's pretty much were I am at.
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