This from the guy with the Quinto avatar. There's a surprise.
I actually did enjoy the Kelvin films very much but saying that they have more subtext or depth than TOS, TNG or even DS9 is just plain silly.
Disney Scraps Plans For Further Star Wars Storys
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This from the guy with the Quinto avatar. There's a surprise.
I actually did enjoy the Kelvin films very much but saying that they have more subtext or depth than TOS, TNG or even DS9 is just plain silly.
Yes, how dare I post something that I identify with. Would Nimoy Spock serve your point better?This from the guy with the Quinto avatar. There's a surprise.
I actually did enjoy the Kelvin films but saying that they have more subtext or depth than TOS, TNG or even DS9 is just plain silly.
Please note that the argument is not for all other Trek. But, they have subtext, and are well crafted stories in their own right, equal to upper echelons of Star Trek, especially 09.
Mileage will vary, of course.
They're probably thinking about money now.
Pretty much this. Star Wars is a wonderful build upon ancient mythology and exploring themes of light and dark. Kelvin Trek goes in to some wonderful themes about the nature of leadership and developing one's potential.
And, to head off any Prime Trek warriors, it isn't the deepest Trek ever. But, that doesn't make it mindless action either. As per usual, the truth lies between the extremes.
Equitable, and true. Kelvin was built on the subject material, various moral tropes have been done time and again thru the series, and each iteration after. Exceptions are of course debated. But to say Kelvin isn't deep on some levels, that's just being nasty. We love our Kelvin generation fans too.. tho we may disagree on quite a lot between the last two Kelvin Movies.. especially the 2nd one. Blech! Sometimes JJ gets inspired, like Star Trek Kelvin 1.. But in TFA.. That was nothing but a rip off of the original, not a love letter. If IX is going to do supposedly better.. it's gonna have to be a big twist to fix a lot of the stupidity that was TLK Ooops.. I thought I was on my transformers movie boards for a second there.. ahem.. TLJ..
I think there's a lot to make up for.. I still can't get that milk scene nightmare to stop.. Or worse still, Mary Leia Poppins space ride..Or Tico the pointless character. Luke the Schmook.. and his cowardice. (thanks Johnson *Aptly named* for screwing up the franchise and disrespecting the character of Luke skywalker, nice!) As Mark has said, I fundamentally disagree with your vision of Luke's character.
Amen. Let's not treat unconfirmed rumors and gossip as gospel.
And, even if the reports are true, taking a deep breath to reassess things is hardly proof that anything has been decisively "scrapped." Just means they're taking a second look at their plans now that SOLO underachieved at the box office. Doesn't mean anything has been spiked for sure. We could just be talking some minor course corrections, not a major retreat.
And that's not being lawyerly. It's just being precise--and not jumping to conclusions.
Personally, I thought SOLO was fun and am hoping we still get the Kenobi movie, since he was probably the best part of the Prequels. (Not counting Christopher Lee, who was . . . Christopher Lee.)
Yes, and it's quite unique in that way. TFA could not exist without the OT. And, in my opinion that is what works so well for it. To say there is nothing in there misses the character work, in the some way the Kelvin films are also oft overlooked as "mindless action films."
Indeed.
Seriously. Their sole focus right now is on getting Episode IX out. If that film flops they won't be spending any more money on Star Wars films period.
And to be honest, I don't think it's going to do what it needs to. It's too late.
Maybe it's the "Saga" films they should stop making.
Perhaps there is some bias here? Haven't even seen the film, and already condemned it. Seems perfectly rational...
Had a really great feeling about Obi-Wan because Ewan.
Stand alone, I thought, was an excellent format. One movie bombs, the next might be a hit. Why does everything have to be drawn out in three or more films? Seems idiotic to double down on trilogies amid uncertainty.
Stand alone, I thought, was an excellent format. One movie bombs, the next might be a hit. Why does everything have to be drawn out in three or more films? Seems idiotic to double down on trilogies amid uncertainty.
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Well yes, the formula and almost scene for scene recreation worked in the original release, so why not steal it, and replay it only slightly differently, and that's genius..
Why does this remind me of ELF, when Will Farrell's Father character asks his writers to pitch him a new book Idea, they in turn pitch him a different writer as their "sales pitch". Too Ironic.. LOL
As far as character work? What character work? Finn the comic relief? Rey who can literally do ANYTHING and doesn't need a man's hand up! or Poe the Schmo who shows you can blow up a bigger then the Death Star planet (rip off of the death star) without nO force Yo! Screw your achievement Luke! LOL.
Yea.. I think TFA with all it's success is still at best a second tier rip off of a masterpiece of Science fiction cinema. But hey, that's just my opinion.. and like all on here, we share em.
No...just no.
Rey finding her place, while looking to the past. Finn is even more interesting with him having to reject the First Order's programming, something never seen in a Star Wars film before. But, yeah, completely cut and paste of ANH
A "rip off" eh?
I don't understand how projecting that the ticket sales for a film probably won't be there because a large portion of the fan base is alienated from the franchise is a biased opinion. But then I guess the point this time was to question my rational.
And I also don't understand why you Fireproof, follow me from thread to thread making little remarks on every single post that I make. Can you control yourself? Does it stop? Does it ever stop?
This is getting very close to the point I was trying to make about stalking, in another thread.
You see my avatar, you know I'm the "Rian Johnson sucks" guy. and since that offends your sensibilities, you attack my posts every chance you get. And though your not the only one, you are becoming the loudest.
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He paid the price of his inadequacy the next movie.
I am wondering where the projections are coming from, is all. I tend to question such matter of fact statements without sources. That's my point.
But, clearly this is pointless. I find your point of view interesting and am trying to understand it, even as I disagreed on points.
Huh... you're right. Warning for spamming. Comments to PM
I wrote a big long comment on fans killing the franchise that they love, but decided that it just wasn't worth it. 
Please leave the evaluations on judgment calls to the moderator staff, and do NOT bring them up in a thread covering another topic.
Sure did.. I would run and hide if my Nads got nicked by the Cranky Purple Haired monster, and all the Female leadership too.
What an odd thing to say.
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