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Disney fires James Gunn from "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3"

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It's gotta be the Annihilation Wave, if they wrap up the Infinity Stone stuff.

Which would be a nice way to bring back Ultron. :)
 
Yaaay, Annihilation Wave.

Sorry, I'm contractually onbligated to be excited anytime someone mentions it in a thread I follow.
 
mos6507 said:
I am pretty certain that a GOTG3 would need to invert the fish out of water story by having the Guardians on Earth. Quill himself, being gone for so long, would also be dealing with culture-shock. That's the only way to make it fresh at this point.
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That’s if they come to Earth. Which would make sense.

But, my guess is that will be about rescuing Gamora.

Jayson1 said:
I agree he would be a choice. I think I used him as a example as how unlikely he would be hired. Also "Yoga Hosers" wasn't great but sure I think it's kind of fun in a cheap B-movie way. I didn't expect much from it going in so I guess for me I dodn't mind what was given.
As for Gunn and the fall of the MCU I think we all know it will end at some point. I can see Gunn as being the beginning of the end especially if they way he was fired is used again to bring down other people for political reasons. The MCU could very easily become as political as "Star Wars" has. Which I also think might be due to a big fall. I'm not sure how much life it has once you move away from the old actors until they create something that can stand on it's own and become almost as iconic as the old movies.
As for Guardians taking a different tone i'm not sure the setting lends itself more than just fun wacky adventure. Trying to do something else almost feels like trying to tell a serious "Deadpool" movie. Also I think that movie sort represents the entire MCU idea to begin with. A bunch of fun action movies with lots of comedy, that sometimes undercuts the drama and a big action set in the third act where the world is saved and the villian is defeated. They do have a formula and I wonder how long they can go with that until people want more but even then I don't think they want a Guardians movie to be were that change is. It will interesting to see what the first R-rated Marvel movie looks like when they eventually do one. With Robert Downey Jr being who he is maybe that is how they could give Iron Man his final movie.

Jason
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“Serious Deadpool story”? What the fuck are you talking about? Deadpool is a comedy.
 
I was thinking about this more, and I realized that pretty much every diector change has brought about a pretty massive change in tone, with Captain America: First Avenger and Winter Soldier, and Thor, The Dark World, and Ragnarok being perfect examples, and all of those have managed to still be great movies. So I take back what I said before about needing Gunn for GOTG, actually I'm starting to find myself a bit curious to see the Guardians approached from a different angel.
Noname Given said:
IDK where you get the idea that somehow James Gunn was a big deal in the MCU. He was involved in 2 GotG films and directed the GotG segments in Avengers 3 and Avengers 4(Which is in the can). So, that's a total of 3 films of the 20 MCU films released to date.

You sound like those claiming the MCU was 'dead' in 2009 when Jon Favreau passed on directing Iron Man 2.

James Gunn being fired by Disney will have little to no impact on the plans Disney has for the MCU other than finding another director to helm GotG III (and no, the cast and crew won't boycott or 'opt out' because James Gunn is no longer involved.)
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Yeah, the only thing that will really be impacted by Gunn being fired is GOTG 3.
Jayson1 said:
As for Gunn and the fall of the MCU I think we all know it will end at some point. I can see Gunn as being the beginning of the end especially if they way he was fired is used again to bring down other people for political reasons. The MCU could very easily become as political as "Star Wars" has. Which I also think might be due to a big fall. I'm not sure how much life it has once you move away from the old actors until they create something that can stand on it's own and become almost as iconic as the old movies.
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The MCU has had a ton of directors come and go, and Gunn didn't really have that big of an impact on the MCU as a whole. Joss Whedon was much more important and it's done fine without him.
As for Guardians taking a different tone i'm not sure the setting lends itself more than just fun wacky adventure. Trying to do something else almost feels like trying to tell a serious "Deadpool" movie. Also I think that movie sort represents the entire MCU idea to begin with. A bunch of fun action movies with lots of comedy, that sometimes undercuts the drama and a big action set in the third act where the world is saved and the villian is defeated. They do have a formula and I wonder how long they can go with that until people want more but even then I don't think they want a Guardians movie to be were that change is. It will interesting to see what the first R-rated Marvel movie looks like when they eventually do one. With Robert Downey Jr being who he is maybe that is how they could give Iron Man his final movie.


Jason
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I don't see that being the case at all. Gunn approached it from a more comedic angel, but there is nothing about what we've seen of the cosmic side of the MCU so far that would indicate that it could only be used for comedic movies.
Guy Gardener said:
It's gotta be the Annihilation Wave, if they wrap up the Infinity Stone stuff.

Which would be a nice way to bring back Ultron. :)
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Would Annihlus be a Fantastic Four character? I'm pretty sure he started out as an FF baddie.
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That doesn't matter anymore.

Disney bought FOX.

Disney already owned Marvel.

Disney reached in FOX's dirty craw, plucked out the Fantastic Four movie rights, and then stuffed those rights back home where they belong, up Marvel's bum, where they hadn't been seen since 1985.

X-Men Apocalypse was awful, but I wanted to give Sophie Turner one more chance to be a perfect Jean Grey. Obviously she is going to disappoint me again, but on paper, she seems perfect in just about every way for the part.
 
JD said:
I was thinking about this more, and I realized that pretty much every diector change has brought about a pretty massive change in tone, with Captain America: First Avenger and Winter Soldier, and Thor, The Dark World, and Ragnarok being perfect examples, and all of those have managed to still be great movies. So I take back what I said before about needing Gunn for GOTG, actually I'm starting to find myself a bit curious to see the Guardians approached from a different angel.
Yeah, the only thing that will really be impacted by Gunn being fired is GOTG 3.
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No one behind the camera is irreplaceable. Many in front of the camera as well.
 
His loss is the one that would probably have the biggest impact on the MCU.
 
ATimson said:
Kevin Feige might be.
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In the same way Joss Whedon was? (Remember all the doom and gloom predictions as he was moving on ?) Please.

And here's the thing: Nothing lasts forever and eventually the MCU will fade. It's not a question of if, it's just a question of when. That's not 'doom and gloom' (and hell, I still hope I as a BIG FF fan get to see the MCU's take on the Fantastic Four); but yeah, no one is irreplaceable.
 
Noname Given said:
In the same way Joss Whedon was? (Remember all the doom and gloom predictions as he was moving on ?) Please.
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I don't remember this doom and gloom you speak of. After Age of Ultron I seem to recall the general consensus being something more like "eh."
And here's the thing: Nothing lasts forever and eventually the MCU will fade. It's not a question of if, it's just a question of when. That's not 'doom and gloom' (and hell, I still hope I as a BIG FF fan get to see the MCU's take on the Fantastic Four); but yeah, no one is irreplaceable.
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Finding a worthy successor is more the question than if they will need one at all. Feige has overseen 17 billion in box office returns for Marvel Studios/Disney, another billion or two if you include his previous work on Marvel properties for other studios. Those are big shoes to fill, and many very accomplished and capable men and women have tripped themselves up in smaller.
 
JD said:
I was thinking about this more, and I realized that pretty much every diector change has brought about a pretty massive change in tone, with Captain America: First Avenger and Winter Soldier, and Thor, The Dark World, and Ragnarok being perfect examples
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What are the other examples? Iron Man 2 to 3, and Thor 1 to 2 both had the same tone. Same goes for Ultron to Infinity War...maybe not a perfect match for Whedon, but certainly not a massive change. I don't recall any other director switches, so unless I'm mistaken the tonal shift due to director is actually only twenty percent of the time. :)
 
Gamora wasn't killed by the Snap. She was killed during the acquisition of only one of the Infinity Stones. Thematically, her death was quite significant to the story of Avengers 3, but as one life to be saved among the billions lost, and a life that can potentially be saved by a different mechanism, it could definitely make sense to have saving her be its own story.
 
mos6507 said:
I think that's part of the resolution of Infinity War and hence in Avengers 4.

https://bgr.com/2018/08/03/4-avengers-infinity-war-secrets-explained-thor-happy-hulk-and-gamora/

I don't think it makes sense to do a Guardians Movie (or most other MCU movies, frankly) before resolving the Infinity War cliffhanger.
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I don’t if Gamora’s story will be resolved in the next Avengers movie. I see it more likely Stark or Rogers—since it’s the end of their contracts and possible interest and they started the movies, along with Thor—going out with a bang stopping Thanos. They aren’t beholden to follow the comics. Those characters undo the snappening, bringing back all triode who were lost in that event. Quill is all “But what about Gamora?” Everyone shrugs “Who dat?” and off we go into GOTG 3: The Search for Gamora.

Then we get one with time travel and whales. Then we get a terrible one. Then, Gunn is brought back for a 6th and final one that’s not really all that great but it’s better than 5.
 
Maybe they'll leave all the dead Guardians dead and just pick up with Rocket having to assemble a new team.
 
Anwar said:
Maybe they'll leave all the dead Guardians dead and just pick up with Rocket having to assemble a new team.
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Oh, I'd love that. It could be like in the comics when the Guardians disbanded and Rocket had to get all the people who didn't make the original team cut and reserve members on. Good times.

Also that won't happen that way, but I like to dream.
 
It would also make sense that if you do another Guardian movie without Gunn just bring in new people. Still I think you need at least one modern day human or at least someone like Thor in the movie for the audiences sake. Heck could Thor become a Guardian? Never read the comics so I don't know if they ever did that but it would make sense and he already has repore with Rocket.

Jason
 
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