Disney fires James Gunn from "Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3"
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He peaked at Chasing Amy.
TV work is good for him. In TV the producers have final say, the directors are there to do their bidding.
If the project is something interesting to him, why wouldn't he? His career's not going to be ruined because he replaced the precious Gunn.
And Marvel has never done a fourth solo for any character so far. We have no idea if there will be a next Thor movie.
I don't know. I think he has only done 2 movies they were really bad. One was "Cop Out" and the other was "Jersey Girl." I think his movies though work mostly as hangout type of movies and people just like listening to the characters talk more than any kind of strong story narrative. Though I did like "Red State" and "Tusks" more than many. God help me I even liked "Yoga Hosers." Of course I think his main attraction is people just like him as a person. I think he was the first or one of the first with a podcast and people like listening to him on a stage or in a interview. He really milked his fandom to some good success. His Superman story is something I think ever nerd is familiar with.
Jason
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Ruined might be to strong but if the movie fails he will be blamed just like Joss Whedon was for "Justice League" and Ron Howard for "Solo." I think we will see a 4th Thor movie. I know we haven't seen that before techincally but at this point it feels like we have had 5 or 6 Iron Man movies despite only 3 offical ones. The last Thor movies was the best and I don't see them stopping especially if they plan on doing a individual movie with the Valkerie character I think she was called. Might want to use her again in another Thor before giving her a movie of her own.
Jason
Most people didn't blame Whedon for JL at all, nor Ron Howard for Solo. And if it 'feels' like we've had 5 or 6 Iron Man movies, that's because Downey has had a ton of guest starring spots. Marvel could easily just do the same with Thor if they want to keep him around.
And I still wonder if Valkyrie isn't more likely to be attached to the New Guardians of the Galaxy. Gunn was always intended to be done after G3, and he specifically said that the would be the end of the trilogy and that series might continue after with a different group. Certainly it makes sense to have at least two different team franchises so you don't have to shove every character into every Avengers movie, and with Marvel talking about phase 4 being very cosmic, that would make the Guardians more important as a team movie outlet. And Valkyrie is pretty much tailor made to be a lead in that kind of property. I think that would probably be much more succesfull than launching her as a solo character.
For about 5 minutes Thor's sister "Angela" was a Guardian of the Galaxy.
At the risk of going in circles, they will never hire Kevin Smith for this, period. Even if he could reign it in for the films themselves, the guy is too much of a media whore, and every other word coming out of his mouth is a swear or a bodily function. It would be Disney going from the frying pan into the fire.
Gunn was not responsible for every fricking thing at MS. They're introducing Captain Marvel this year, and the Skrulls along with her. They've already announced the Eternals. They are not going to cancel Guardians 3 just because they fired Gunn. And whether they make a fourth Thor movie or not, everyone still wants to see Valkyrie and Korg again. The cosmic influence is already there and growing.
And again, phase 4 can't be all about the X-men. The merger won't be official until at least the end of the year, if that. They legally cannot start work on anything fox related before then. And they already have put in a ton of work on their pre-existing slate which they aren't going to just toss aside.
IDK where you get the idea that somehow James Gunn was a big deal in the MCU. He was involved in 2 GotG films and directed the GotG segments in Avengers 3 and Avengers 4(Which is in the can). So, that's a total of 3 films of the 20 MCU films released to date.
You sound like those claiming the MCU was 'dead' in 2009 when Jon Favreau passed on directing Iron Man 2.
James Gunn being fired by Disney will have little to no impact on the plans Disney has for the MCU other than finding another director to helm GotG III (and no, the cast and crew won't boycott or 'opt out' because James Gunn is no longer involved.)
Feige himself stated in an interview that Gunn was going to be sorta the pointman for the cosmic angle of phase 4.
Which is just another position in which he'll be replaced. Whedon oversaw the entire MCU from Avengers to AoU. That didn't mean he was irreplaceable or that they had to change all the plans he helped create because he wasn't around anymore. That's not how this works.
Funny. Can't remember me saying he was irreplaceble.... Just that he was a big deal in the MCU, because Feige had big plans for him. Just like how Whedon was a big deal for a while. And yes, just like Whedon, and the Russo brothers after Avengers 4 and now Gunn, they are replaceble.
Noname Given mentioned that he didn't get how people thought Gunn was a big deal. Well, Feige's comments a few weeks ago make it clear why. And no, he isn't anymore.
We can split hairs over statements if you want, but the context of this discussion was about Jayson's ridiculously over the top claims about how Gunn leaving means Marvel will completely change all their plans. That's what we were talking about before you got here, so that's the context in which I read your post.
You are in a minority regarding his movies. Seriously: Yoga Hosers?
Regardless if the personal appeal he has among fandom, that doesn’t make him qualified to take on a big budget action movie.
Personally, I would love it if they did something different tonally with GOTG3, rather the same thing again.
I am pretty certain that a GOTG3 would need to invert the fish out of water story by having the Guardians on Earth. Quill himself, being gone for so long, would also be dealing with culture-shock. That's the only way to make it fresh at this point.
I agree he would be a choice. I think I used him as a example as how unlikely he would be hired. Also "Yoga Hosers" wasn't great but sure I think it's kind of fun in a cheap B-movie way. I didn't expect much from it going in so I guess for me I dodn't mind what was given.
As for Gunn and the fall of the MCU I think we all know it will end at some point. I can see Gunn as being the beginning of the end especially if they way he was fired is used again to bring down other people for political reasons. The MCU could very easily become as political as "Star Wars" has. Which I also think might be due to a big fall. I'm not sure how much life it has once you move away from the old actors until they create something that can stand on it's own and become almost as iconic as the old movies.
As for Guardians taking a different tone i'm not sure the setting lends itself more than just fun wacky adventure. Trying to do something else almost feels like trying to tell a serious "Deadpool" movie. Also I think that movie sort represents the entire MCU idea to begin with. A bunch of fun action movies with lots of comedy, that sometimes undercuts the drama and a big action set in the third act where the world is saved and the villian is defeated. They do have a formula and I wonder how long they can go with that until people want more but even then I don't think they want a Guardians movie to be were that change is. It will interesting to see what the first R-rated Marvel movie looks like when they eventually do one. With Robert Downey Jr being who he is maybe that is how they could give Iron Man his final movie.
Jason
The whole cosmic angle is pure fan speculation at this point with nothing coming from Marvel's mouth. There is absolutely nothing to Gunn doing that
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