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Discovery at STLV. The massive info dump

Yeah, in addition to the shuttle, there was the Romulan Pird of Prey, which according to early canon was meant to have round nacelles as a nod to Romulan espionage and reverse engineering of Starfleet tech - and the remastered TOS Medusan ship which was also meant to be Starfleet tech - but we never saw another Federation starship alone the lines of the Ptolomy or Saladin, so didn't want to push the evidence too far.

I think the reason I immediatly loved the Discovery so much is that by consciously going back to a 70s paradigm in terms of design, they immediatly make the ship look more like something from 'an era of it's own':

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What these bulky industrial designs do is serve to ground the show in a different technological era from the flowing organic curves of TNG - and also from the less blocky TOS and TMP era - it's purely symbolic, as by the 23rd century if tech progresses as it is doing now, I doubt we will have any constraints on shaping things - but the symbolism is strong - the design looks like something more primal like the Nostromo from Alien or the Sulaco from Aliens or the Discovery from 2001 - a ship of exploration, a platform, a space rig.
To me, it looks like a ship of the line. Kind of likening it to steam railroading, where you had most attention on the crack passenger trains of the day (and those locomotives garnering more attention, like the Constitution Class being the top of the line starship) but the day in, day out, workaday freight locomotives or switching locomotives not having as much attention paid to them (the Discovery, etc. being reliable and serving out there, but not seen as much or paid much attention to).

To me, this also serves as a platform to say that Starfleet designs start to merge elements we see on Discovery and TOS Enterprise, evolving over years and eras to the Galaxy Class.
 
Yep, the MacQuarrie Discovery looks very industrial and functional like a diesel locomotive or something - again, just symbolic, but very good symbolism, as despite the fact that we could probably make very organic looking things by then, the connotations of boxy shapes and prominent edges serves to symbolize a functional thing, like a NASA designed ship would be - no ornamentation, no extra space. This is plausible as something that existed just before TOS and TMP when everything was present, but perhaps a bit less refined.

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There was a good mission in the game Star Trek: Judgement Rites where Kirk, Scotty and Chekov go to visit a museum containing components from historical Starships that were junked over the years, including things like an old nuclear-powered probe, like the ones that Starfleet fires out of a torpedo tube, but much more bulky, like a transitional design between NASA and Starfleet - also things like an old bulky EVA suit that was used in the "commonwealth mission", a famous incident in the 22nd century when a cosmonaut rescued an early starship above Mars called the SS Commonwealth. Its full of the exact kind of feeling that they should try to conjure in a prequel. The Franklin in Beyond was well done, but like a lot of people I felt ENT missed an opportunity in not making things much more primitive, like having some Earth ships have no artificial gravity like Babylon 5 did for older ships, or replacing photon torpedos with nuclear weapons.

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I want to get that model and some appropriately sized TOS Connie engines and convert it with them and then paint with TOS colours and hull markings.
 
I don't see the problem. The Ent was already 20 years old when Kirk took command. The retrofit we saw in TMP could bring it up to speed to what was current.
 
I love those nacelles on Shenzhou - the old cylindrical engines would be ugly on this ship.
I like the nacelles, too. I think the only other way I'd see them is if they used nacelles that looked like the Phase II ones. Same general shape, but have the glowing on the front, slightly, like the Phoenix in FC.
 
Hypothetically, could the Mawson be representative of a 24th century refit of the 23C Walker class? Akin to the Constitution class - (Enterprise class) refit - Exeter class (STO), or is the visual relationship more like Constitution/Ambassador?


No, not IMO. While we all know the so called "Refit" was a BS excuse for designing an entire new ship. Star trek does not refit ships in this way, we never see it before or ever again. Nothing on this one and the walker class lines up. They have nothing in common from a design point of view.

Looks the same to me...? Maybe with the back section a little taller and modified details.

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You are looking at a matching color palette. The ships have little in common
 
Well, they're certainly not the same ship in any respect. They're a little more similar to one another than they are to, say, the Reliant.
 
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