Discovery at STLV. The massive info dump
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Or many of the fan-made TOS Miranda Class designs:
Oh yes, the body layout predates the Aries( which is not even the same layout shape) by decades.
Yep! It was mentioned somewhere that Shenzhou was originally supposed to be inverted, but it was decided to flip it to have the nacelles downward.
It's a Trek tradition to flip the models. I believe Roddenberry did this with the Reliant, and don't some initial concept sketches of the TOS Enterprise have the nacelles pointing down?
Yes, some of the Jefferies sketches had the nacelles underneath. Some of those had the nacelles attached to the saucer with no pylons, and the secondary hull attached above, much like the Kelvin.
I was told about it months ago. It was mentioned this happened during STLV for the first time in public.
I read it from the STLV live tweets, during the designers panel. That was it! OK, Man, spill the rest of what you know!
I think the Klingon drawing may be mislabeled. This was the concept art for what became the D-4 design, first seen in the Enterprise episode "Unexpected", dating back to 2001. This was not the "Warbird" (GOD I hate that fucking nomenclature being used for anything and everything Klingon and Romulan these days) that appeared in Trek09 which follows along the same general D-7 lines, but markedly different surface detailing and proportions. I much prefer Eaves' D-4 over the "Warbird" anyway.
According to Memory-Alpha, Eaves did submit that D-4 design for use in '09, but it wasn't used.
Their source is 'Star Trek - The Art of the Film, pp. 56-57'
But you're right that it was originally made for Enterprise.
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Yep, Eaves resubmitted his D-4 concept art for the '09 movie.
I'd love to see good views of the ST'09 Warbird. I really liked it from what I saw, probably the most faithful to TOS design in the new movies.
I'd love to see good views of the ST'09 Warbird. I really liked it from what I saw, probably the most faithful to TOS design in the new movies.
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I'm waiting for the Eagle Moss model of it, because I just love the D7 shape.
There have been fan recreations.
There have been fan recreations.
I think this is good design and would be perfectly acceptable TOS era Klingon ship. Call it D6 or D8 or whatever. Certainly far better than the weird things they're using in Discovery (though I reserve my final judgement until I see better pics of those.)
Yeah, I hate to be someone who judges the designs based on a blurry image, but the Klingon ships that warp in, in trailer 2, do not look very nice - in comparison to the amazing D7 shape. I hold out hope that they are a civilian flotilla or something.
Here is a side view of the Star Trek 2009 Klingon Warbird, from Ex Astris Scientia:
Here is the unsued designs for a Klingon Bird of Prey from Star Trek: Into Darkness:
A cool re-imagined Klingon Battlecruiser:
And my personal favorite:
All of which look very appropriate as Klingon designs, and preserve the smooth feel of Klingon designs, which have never been particularly gothic before. I really do worry about this:
Here is a side view of the Star Trek 2009 Klingon Warbird, from Ex Astris Scientia:
Here is the unsued designs for a Klingon Bird of Prey from Star Trek: Into Darkness:
A cool re-imagined Klingon Battlecruiser:
And my personal favorite:
All of which look very appropriate as Klingon designs, and preserve the smooth feel of Klingon designs, which have never been particularly gothic before. I really do worry about this:
So even Eaves thinks his design style is so interchangeable that the same design could be used a hundred years apart.
The D-7/K'Tinga. 'nuff said.
Up until DSC, Klingons were using the same Bird of Prey in the 23rd and 24th centuries, and had a 22nd century version whose only real difference is shorter wings.
Just sayin'
