Discovery and "The Orville" Comparisons
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That's a shame, I think it was the better show.
Well, Seth McFarlane Humour™ in the TNG universe. Which has me sold.
I think DS9 wins as far as stand-alone episodes go, but B5's arcs blew DS9's away, particularly from seasons 2-4.
I think it goes the other way. B5 was either exceptional or bloody awful. DS9 was just consistently okay. B5's ten best episodes are substantially better than DS9s ten best episodes. But B5 doesn't have much to offer beyond those ten except goofy contrivances and gaudy, clumsy dialog.
Well, it's pretty clear that DSC is going to be centered around long arc Klingon conflicts. Thus far nothing suggests that we'll get any sci fi idea episodes, which we might, I suppose, and that would be great, but it's not the general direction this show is taking.
Not to mention that there's been a lot of talk about how the crew is going to be in constant conflicts with each other, which also takes away any precious time the show might have for any exciting "Crew encounters a strange phenomenon on a surface of planet X and ends up meddling with the affairs of the natives" - I might be completely wrong, but everything is suggesting that this is just GoT in space. Which could be OK on its own, but then it's just another random show.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but every Trek series is Sci-Fi. Each time a phaser is fired, a transporter is used, extraterrestrial life is shown, a ship goes to warp, etc. then you have a Sci-Fi series.
That may true in the strictest sense, but people don't make classifications like Netflix bots, they form their own subjective definitions, which is why there are so many unending arguments centered on whether or not a center piece of media is "Sci-Fi".
I disagree. If they can make it cheaply, and it's reasonably popular I see it sticking around for a few seasons.
That's just the thing, I have doubts about the cost to popularity ratio.
It seems that FOX is making a bet that they can steal some of that Big Bang mojo and get people to laugh at nerdy jokes for 42 or 24 minutes (I can't remember how long the episodes are).
I think its a good bet.
I think it will be far more than that, but we'll just have to wait and see
Wouldn't it be wild if The Orville manages to sneak in serious commentary on the "big issues" while DSC ends up being shallow and overly reliant on SFX?
I think he will get in some one liners, but I don't know how subtle they will be... he tends to take the Jeremy Clarkson approach to humor (for uninitiated, that means his only tool is a hammer).
I agree. Some new gee-whiz stuff and an nostalgic look back at the 90's era Trek. It's a cool time for sci-fi.
Yes.
Story topics like Seaquest DSV:
"ecology, exploration of the sea, environmental radicals, advances in technology, and political intrigue, the second season featured episodes involving genetic engineering, aliens, parapsychology, Time travel, and various "monsters of the week" (including killer plants, a dragon worm, a prehistoric crocodile and ancient demons.)" Okay all of those are not serious commentary...
see this interesting article about DSC and conservation story
Why Star Trek: Discovery Needs an Environmental Conservation Plotline
You're kidding, right? Let's count the number of episodes with Nog screaming like an idiot.
No, B5 has better consistent episodes. DS9 suffers from filler episodes. Overall, the Shadow War and the show's other arcs put B5 far above DS9.
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