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Did you ever notice that... (DS9)

This is a "Never noticed that" thread for DS9 (doesn't have one yet). I'll start:
Found this while looking thru MA.

E'Tyshra's hair is done like Stella Mudd's. So was Stella a T'Lani?

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Holy balls, I've never seen either of these episodes, but I guess Dilbert's boss is also T'Lani!

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How come we never question that, for example, Worf is afraid if he loses the physical data rods he will lose his Klingon opera collection forever? They report information by carrying around physical padds and data rods which if they lost, would lose forever the information they contained.

Robust backup technology is 400 years old at this point. :) One would expect the data rods are just the safe backup in case the station's computers get wiped out again and stuff is actually stored in the computer.
 
Perhaps the 24th century RIAA insists that you must have the original data rods in order to play the music.
 
Or telling Worf to make do with the backups/replacements is like telling a hardcore music nerd that it sounds just as good on CD. Original vinyl only for Worf!
 
With Cardassians, sometimes you see the scales near the neck ridges coming loose. I know I saw that on Voyager with the Cardassian doctor, Crell Moset.

I think it's cannon somewhere that Cardassians shed scales. Clever use of a makeup problem.
 
Watching "Dax." The opening station log voiceover is an explanation of Colm Meaney's absence to film a movie -- "Chief O'Brien has escorted his wife back to earth to celebrate her mother's 100th birthday."

Rosalind Chao was 35 or 36 at the time. Her mom had her at age 64/65? Or did she just get caught in a Trek time vortex at some point?

Some famous historical examples:

Swietoslava (c. 1048-1126) consort of Duke and later King Vratislaus II of Bohemia, was the youngest child of Duke Casimir I of Poland (1016-1058) and his wife Maria Dobroniega (after 1012-1087), daughter of Grand Prince Vladimir I of Kiev (c. 958-1015). It is at least slightly possible that Maria Maria Dobroniega's mother was Anna Porphyrogenita (963-1011), which would make Swietosalva born about 85 years after her maternal grandmother.

Empress Constance (1154-1198) daughter of Roger II, the first King of Sicily (1095-1154) was 40 years, 1 month, and 22 days old when her son Emperor Fredrick II (1194-1250) was born 26 December 1154.

Eleanor of Aquitaine (1122-1204) was 44 years old when her youngest son King John (1166-1216) was born.

Princes Agnes of the Holy Roman Empire (1072/73-1143) married twice and had at least 22 children over a period of 30 year from 1088 to about 1118 when she was about 45 or 46.

Duke Leopold III of Austria (1 November 1351- 9 July 1386) was born when his mother Joanna of Pfirt (c. 1300-15 November 1351) was allegedly 51.

The oldest mother to conceive naturally is listed as Dawn Brooke age 59.

Thanks to modern assisted reproductive medicine, Maria del Carmen Bousada de Lara is listed as the oldest women to give birth aged 66 years 358 days. But other women are credited as giving birth up to age 70.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy_over_age_50

It's also interesting to note that Keiko's mother was apparently around the age of 60 when she had Keiko (assuming Keiko was not much older than 40 in 2369).

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Keiko_O'Brien

In "The Neutral Zone" Data told the revived dead people that the year was now 2364 in their calendar.

RALPH: What year is this?
DATA: By your calendar two thousand three hundred sixty four.

Dr. crusher tells Clare Raymond:

CRUSHER: About three hundred and seventy years ago, you died of a massive embolism.

So Clare Raymond died about 1984 to 2004 in her calendar. Her age at death was 35.

DATA: I was able to retrieve some information from the ancient disk I removed from the module's computer. Her name is Clare Raymond, age thirty five, occupation homemaker. Must be some kind of construction work.

Clare Raymond should have been born about 1948 to 1969 in her calendar.

Troi locates some of Clare Raymond's descendants.

TROI: I've found something. I have been able to locate a family living outside of Indianapolis. The man's name is Thomas Raymond.
CLARE: That's my son's name. My son's name is Tommy.
TROI: Computer, let us see Thomas Raymond.
CLARE: Oh, my God. That's Donald. That's my husband.
TROI: Actually, it's your great, great, great, great, great grandson.

Thomas Raymond, Clare's great, great, great, great, great grandson, would be her descendant in seven generations gaps. Assuming that he was between 40 and 100 in 2364, he would have been born between 2264 and 2324, about 295 to 376 years after Clare was born, making about 42.1428 to 53.714 years per generation gap. That certainly implies that the average generation can be much longer in the future than in our era. So perhaps 60-year-old mothers are not so rare in the 24th century as in our era.
 
A couple I noticed recently that maybe everyone already knew about but were new to me (these are story-based rather than production-based):

It seems like a new aspect to Garak's personality when he comes down with an attack of claustrophobia in "By Inferno's Light". But back in "Second Skin", when Sisko takes him along to Cardassia to rescue Kira, Garak off-handedly remarks to Sisko that the Defiant's tiny cabins are "a little claustrophobic". I don't know if the writers were already thinking along those lines for Garak, or if they wrote it as an offhand line and only thought later that they could make use of it, or if they completely forgot they did it. But it's a nice little tie-in either way.

Likewise in "The Quickening", we learn that the Dominion are fully capable of designing and implementing a contagion to attack someone they don't like. Given that they already genetically engineered the Jem'Hadar and the Vorta, that's not a huge surprise. But on the disease aspect of it, this sets up the reveal in "Broken Link" that they already infected Odo with a similar disease to get him to do what they want.
 
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I think it's cannon somewhere that Cardassians shed scales. Clever use of a makeup problem.


There should have been a running joke of people finding Garak's full body sheddings all over DS9.
 
There's also a scene with Garak at Quark's bar (I think it was in The Wire, but I can't find the exact clip), and he is contorting his upper half in abnormal ways. You can see the thick ridges on his neck and shoulders flex in a way that bone probably shouldn't.

Speaking of Garak, take note of his clothing during In the Pale Moonlight. He looks as if he's wearing a Starfleet operations uniform from 2360-66.
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This episode is often cited as the epitome DS9 deconstructing the Roddenberry ideal, with Sisko going against the Federation ethos and having his conscience tested to destruction. There's a dark poetry in having Garak subtly remind us of early TNG, when the sanctimonious moralism was at its peak.
 
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Re: Garak's claustrophobia. Andrew Robinson worked with the writers to create his character, and added elements that were true in RL to the character. One of those elements was his claustrophobia. He stated in an interview that he was afraid he wouldn't be able to continue doing the character because the make-up was making him claustrophobic--it was like being in a coffin--until he saw himself in the mirror and fell in love with the way the character looked. He didn't have a problem with the make-up after that.
 
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Did I notice correctly, I think i saw the same backwards footage of a Klingon flying around in 'Generations' (movie) and in some battle scene in season 7 episode of DS9...
 
Notice the two Klingons (behind Rom's noggin) being playful with one another.

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This scene is from "Ferengi Love Songs". The two Klingons in the background of this scene caught my attention when I saw this scene and episode a few nights ago.

Before this kiss, Leeta had just sold a jumja stick, the popsicle looking snack, to the Klingons, and then the two Klingons started to frolic with each other in the background.

The reason it caught my attention was how bizarre it seemed. Two Klingon warriors being openly flirtatious with one another in public in an alien space station. When I saw this scene, it appeared to me that they were two Klingon females, which made it even more noteworthy when I saw it at the time.

When I look at that picture, maybe one of those Klingons might have a male. I can't really tell. In any case, I thought it was rather shocking to see two Klingon warriors, especially if they are both of the same gender, flirting and being playful with one another like that in public.

It was only in the background and it only lasted a few seconds, but it definitely caught my attention. This episode was about romance, so it wouldn't be so surprising that the two Klingon warriors were suppose to be romantic with each other in that scene.
 
This being Star Trek in the ‘90’s, probably not a same sex couple LOL
Klingon on the left seems to be male. But I’ll have to try to catch it next go around.
 
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