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Did anyone get a Windows 10 invite?

Yes, I should just stop procrastinating and move wholesale to using Linux as my main OS and run Windows in a VM for apps that require it.
 
Hey the "Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3116908)"

Just how big is this update? It's still happening although it's been split into parts...

How many devices can you install your copy of windows on? I thought the limit was 10...

Can I keep my old hard drive with windows 10 on it and maybe swap them? That's got all my more serious stuff on it and this new drive I have done has more games and fun stuff...
 
Maybe that makes a difference. I always have the latest build of CCleaner. I wonder if I installed a much older version would it do the same thing?

I actually meant the latest build of Windows - but it turns out I'm still behind on ccleaner too. (For that I'm on 5.11.5408 - 64bit)

Well, Windows 10 is always up-to-date, because I have the Home edition, which does not allow one to delay updates for very long. It may be due to the fact my version of Windows is 32 bit? I don't know what could be causing it. It happened on the old installation, it's happening on the new installation, I don't know what the root of it could be at this point.

Where I used to click the CCleaner icon and wait maybe 2 seconds on Windows 7, on Windows 10 it's taking anywhere from 10 seconds to a full minute.
That sounds pretty annoying. I'm on that version of Windows too (32 bit). So I'm not looking forward to the update to 10.

Is Paint still around after the update? I'm just wondering, since I use it for resizing on the fly and recoloring.
 
BTW I found windows media player is still there. It's even got its own folder in the "program files" folder... So I'm happy I love ripping my CDs to my hard drive. and in WMP you can do that.
 
BTW I found windows media player is still there. It's even got its own folder in the "program files" folder... So I'm happy I love ripping my CDs to my hard drive. and in WMP you can do that.

Cool. I heard that it was gone and that we'd have to pay $14 to get it back. Glad to see that it's not the case.

Where is it located?
 
Hey the "Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3116908)"

Just how big is this update? It's still happening although it's been split into parts...

upto 1.1GB

Download size can impacted by the patch level of your computer and the particular version installed.
How many devices can you install your copy of windows on? I thought the limit was 10...
Each machine you have a valid Win 7/8.x licence key for can have Windows 10 installed.

If you only have one valid Win7 licence you can only install once instance of Windows.

The 10 device limit is for software that's bought through the the App Store.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/4959/ask-paul-what-are-the-windows-10-device-limits
 
Hey the "Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3116908)"

Just how big is this update? It's still happening although it's been split into parts...

upto 1.1GB

Download size can impacted by the patch level of your computer and the particular version installed.
How many devices can you install your copy of windows on? I thought the limit was 10...
Each machine you have a valid Win 7/8.x licence key for can have Windows 10 installed.

If you only have one valid Win7 licence you can only install once instance of Windows.

The 10 device limit is for software that's bought through the the App Store.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/4959/ask-paul-what-are-the-windows-10-device-limits


But both hard drives are for this same machine. I see no reason why I can't swap them out... Only one has no games and the other had my games.
 
BTW I found windows media player is still there. It's even got its own folder in the "program files" folder... So I'm happy I love ripping my CDs to my hard drive. and in WMP you can do that.

Cool. I heard that it was gone and that we'd have to pay $14 to get it back. Glad to see that it's not the case.

Where is it located?


"Program files" folder not the x86 one. There's a folder right there labeled "windows media player"
 
BTW I found windows media player is still there. It's even got its own folder in the "program files" folder... So I'm happy I love ripping my CDs to my hard drive. and in WMP you can do that.

Cool. I heard that it was gone and that we'd have to pay $14 to get it back. Glad to see that it's not the case.

Where is it located?


"Program files" folder not the x86 one. There's a folder right there labeled "windows media player"

Cool thanks for the info! :)
 
Hey the "Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1511 for x64-based Systems (KB3116908)"

Just how big is this update? It's still happening although it's been split into parts...

upto 1.1GB

Download size can impacted by the patch level of your computer and the particular version installed.
How many devices can you install your copy of windows on? I thought the limit was 10...
Each machine you have a valid Win 7/8.x licence key for can have Windows 10 installed.

If you only have one valid Win7 licence you can only install once instance of Windows.

The 10 device limit is for software that's bought through the the App Store.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/4959/ask-paul-what-are-the-windows-10-device-limits


But both hard drives are for this same machine. I see no reason why I can't swap them out... Only one has no games and the other had my games.

because it's a messy approach that's going to have stuff everywhere and probably won't provide any better protection.

You're better off getting an external drive and a program such as Paragon Image Backup (they have a free and paid version) and make regular backups of the system.

It will allow you to make bare metal restores in the event something goes wrong.

Or a second but more intensive option. Still get the external drive and Paragon but do a complete Fresh install of Windows 10.

Load on all patches and updates. Check everything is working correctly. Create a master bare system backup.

Install all your applications, restore your data. Don't do anything else until you've created another master image with everything installed.

Start using the system and create regular backups of an data that changes and full image backups one a week.
 
upto 1.1GB

Download size can impacted by the patch level of your computer and the particular version installed.
Each machine you have a valid Win 7/8.x licence key for can have Windows 10 installed.

If you only have one valid Win7 licence you can only install once instance of Windows.

The 10 device limit is for software that's bought through the the App Store.

https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/4959/ask-paul-what-are-the-windows-10-device-limits


But both hard drives are for this same machine. I see no reason why I can't swap them out... Only one has no games and the other had my games.

because it's a messy approach that's going to have stuff everywhere and probably won't provide any better protection.

You're better off getting an external drive and a program such as Paragon Image Backup (they have a free and paid version) and make regular backups of the system.

It will allow you to make bare metal restores in the event something goes wrong.

Or a second but more intensive option. Still get the external drive and Paragon but do a complete Fresh install of Windows 10.

Load on all patches and updates. Check everything is working correctly. Create a master bare system backup.

Install all your applications, restore your data. Don't do anything else until you've created another master image with everything installed.

Start using the system and create regular backups of an data that changes and full image backups one a week.


Well I bit the bullet and decided to keep everything on the new larger hard disk. So the old one will get erased... As you say less messy and everything is working as it should now.

I did swap to the old drive last night to copy some folders as I have 2 HDDs in this case, the 2nd one is a permanent storage / backup drive.. While the system was booting up I got a BCD error, and I had to do a startup repair to fix that drive.

Why would that happen just randomly like that?
 
But both hard drives are for this same machine. I see no reason why I can't swap them out... Only one has no games and the other had my games.

because it's a messy approach that's going to have stuff everywhere and probably won't provide any better protection.

You're better off getting an external drive and a program such as Paragon Image Backup (they have a free and paid version) and make regular backups of the system.

It will allow you to make bare metal restores in the event something goes wrong.

Or a second but more intensive option. Still get the external drive and Paragon but do a complete Fresh install of Windows 10.

Load on all patches and updates. Check everything is working correctly. Create a master bare system backup.

Install all your applications, restore your data. Don't do anything else until you've created another master image with everything installed.

Start using the system and create regular backups of an data that changes and full image backups one a week.


Well I bit the bullet and decided to keep everything on the new larger hard disk. So the old one will get erased... As you say less messy and everything is working as it should now.

I did swap to the old drive last night to copy some folders as I have 2 HDDs in this case, the 2nd one is a permanent storage / backup drive.. While the system was booting up I got a BCD error, and I had to do a startup repair to fix that drive.

Why would that happen just randomly like that?

It's quite possible the BCD error was caused by moving the drives around.
 
because it's a messy approach that's going to have stuff everywhere and probably won't provide any better protection.

You're better off getting an external drive and a program such as Paragon Image Backup (they have a free and paid version) and make regular backups of the system.

It will allow you to make bare metal restores in the event something goes wrong.

Or a second but more intensive option. Still get the external drive and Paragon but do a complete Fresh install of Windows 10.

Load on all patches and updates. Check everything is working correctly. Create a master bare system backup.

Install all your applications, restore your data. Don't do anything else until you've created another master image with everything installed.

Start using the system and create regular backups of an data that changes and full image backups one a week.


Well I bit the bullet and decided to keep everything on the new larger hard disk. So the old one will get erased... As you say less messy and everything is working as it should now.

I did swap to the old drive last night to copy some folders as I have 2 HDDs in this case, the 2nd one is a permanent storage / backup drive.. While the system was booting up I got a BCD error, and I had to do a startup repair to fix that drive.

Why would that happen just randomly like that?

It's quite possible the BCD error was caused by moving the drives around.


But why? They were separate drives, just with the same OS on both.
 
Well I bit the bullet and decided to keep everything on the new larger hard disk. So the old one will get erased... As you say less messy and everything is working as it should now.

I did swap to the old drive last night to copy some folders as I have 2 HDDs in this case, the 2nd one is a permanent storage / backup drive.. While the system was booting up I got a BCD error, and I had to do a startup repair to fix that drive.

Why would that happen just randomly like that?

It's quite possible the BCD error was caused by moving the drives around.


But why? They were separate drives, just with the same OS on both.

Because, for example, when you start changing drives around (so the drive that was Drive D: is now C: and you're trying to boot from it) you've invalidated the boot configuration data and Windows is going to have a fit.

example of boot configuration data
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
flightsigning Yes
default {current}
resumeobject {a931652f-8287-11e5-8a83-feb73312472e}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \WINDOWS\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 10
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {d8202c50-8287-11e5-8a83-feb73312472e}
recoveryenabled Yes
flightsigning Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \WINDOWS
resumeobject {a931652f-8287-11e5-8a83-feb73312472e}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard


That's why changing drives around is not a recommended approach unless you know what you're doing.
 
It's quite possible the BCD error was caused by moving the drives around.


But why? They were separate drives, just with the same OS on both.

Because, for example, when you start changing drives around (so the drive that was Drive D: is now C: and you're trying to boot from it) you've invalidated the boot configuration data and Windows is going to have a fit.

example of boot configuration data
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
flightsigning Yes
default {current}
resumeobject {a931652f-8287-11e5-8a83-feb73312472e}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \WINDOWS\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 10
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {d8202c50-8287-11e5-8a83-feb73312472e}
recoveryenabled Yes
flightsigning Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \WINDOWS
resumeobject {a931652f-8287-11e5-8a83-feb73312472e}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard


That's why changing drives around is not a recommended approach unless you know what you're doing.


I am aware of that.

But drive leters hadn't changed. Both were Drive C: 2nd hdd was always Drive F:

Anyway it's all sorted now with me using the larger hdd for everything. the old system drive will be erased and used as a 2nd backup..
 
I got it on this Desk top, the one thing that no longer work is the Media Player, if I have to burn a disk for back up etc I can't, and I don't know how to fix it?
It worked fine with Windows 7.
very Frustrating
 
I'm using the windows media player to rip CD's still works and the version in windows 10 allows lossless formats such as ALAK and FLAC files
 
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