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DEFIANCE Season 3

This was an amazing ep! "That was some gangster-ass shit!" :guffaw: Very little wrong with this one. Datak continues to find new and inventive ways out of an impossible problem and may very well be on his way to reforming. I was truly glad that they didn't go with the cliché rescue by the Omec, as I thought he was going to do when he went to "take a walk". The writing in this show has been consistently improving and I'm so glad they can still come up with things that can surprise a jaded audience. 5 stars on this one, and the season's not even over yet.
 
Stahma has done many unpardonable things but Datak will hold Amanda to her promise and we will have the two of them in Defiance again. Stahma now knows the most vital information for the future of earth.
 
Well, that was certainly a fine hour of entertainment. The VC storyline is now done, Datak has saved the day and managed to survive yet again. Looks like my prediction for the final scene in the series made last week could very well happen.

I really don't get the point of the Indogene infiltrator though. What if after leading everyone to that tunnel Nolan had agreed with Amanda's decision to blow it up? I guess he'd try to raise trouble some other way, but otherwise his master plan would have been shot.
 
Greg Cox said:
Forbin said:
"Single-handed"... excellent! :rofl:

I don't like Amanda pardoning Stahma, though - she murdered that poor guy that found her in the alley!
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Hell, she poisoned Amanda's sister.
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So long as we're making a list (extenuating circumstances notwithstanding) she also knifed Christie McCawley to death.

But then that's how plea bargaining works. You can hardly pardon someone for doing something nice, no? ;)

The Wormhole said:
Well, that was certainly a fine hour of entertainment. The VC storyline is now done, Datak has saved the day and managed to survive yet again. Looks like my prediction for the final scene in the series made last week could very well happen.

I really don't get the point of the Indogene infiltrator though. What if after leading everyone to that tunnel Nolan had agreed with Amanda's decision to blow it up? I guess he'd try to raise trouble some other way, but otherwise his master plan would have been shot.
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Ram Tak knows enough about Nolan (aka "The Butcher of Yosemite") that he knew that when backed into a corner, outnumbered, out-gunned and under immediate pressure from within, he would take any opportunity to exploit even a slight edge and mount a surprise attack rather than sit back behind the stasis net and do nothing.

Keep in mind that the gambit required sacrificing almost the entire infiltration team. Ram Tak went to some considerable lengths to bait that trap. using an Indogene infiltrator meant they'd have a set of eyes and ears in Nolan's militia. Using a votan would have been too risky since any non-local would be pretty quickly outed, while a "human" would be assumed to be above suspicion.
 
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I'd like to think that Datak is finally becoming a "man" and worthy of honor after having really been a child just pretending to be a man of honor for so long now.
 
Technobuilder said:
I'd like to think that Datak is finally becoming a "man" and worthy of honor after having really been a child just pretending to be a man of honor for so long now.
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Tonight's episode:
Ostinato in White
A gruesome murder is committed by an unusual beast that's on the loose and being hunted down by Nolan and Irisa, while Doctor Yewell delves into the surprising victim. Elsewhere, Amanda resists welcoming back Stahma; T'evgin learns an unsettling truth about his daughter.
 
That was kind of a nothing ep, the "beast" storyline belonged in a first season. There would have been better ways to fridge the daughter.

And where is the one armed Datak?!
 
teacake said:
That was kind of a nothing ep, the "beast" storyline belonged in a first season. There would have been better ways to fridge the daughter.
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But it wasn't just a random beast. It was the daughter. I thought the show was actually kinda sneaky in that what appeared to be a Monster of the Week type episode actually turned out to be a big development in the Olmec arc.

Seems to me a lot happened in this episode. A suicide, a murder, and a major character being reprogrammed to be a traitor. And we need to keep an eye on Stahma's maidservant Andina; she seems to be a Stahma-in-training .. ..

And, alas, poor, funny vet guy. Shame they killed him off so abruptly; he actually meshed well with the rest of the cast and had a nice dynamic going with Yewll . . ..
 
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I was wondering as soon as it started if it was one of the Olmec. I was a little surprised they actually got rid of Kindzi.
When all of this first started, I had assumed T'evgin's whole peaceful coexistance thing was an act, but he does appear to be serious. It will be very interesting to see what happens when they wake the rest of the Olmec up, because both T'vegin and Kindzi seemed pretty convinced the others would be on their side.
The clone thing was a surprise, I did not see that coming.
Poor Yewell. She's finally not working against the town, and now she's brainwashed into working against the town.
 
I knew it was the Omec (is it Olmec?) from the first kill. I am wise like that. Also cynical. Also bored.

And yeah, vet guy don't kill him!

Bling line ftw.
 
Yeah I don't think anyone was fooled by the "monster" idea. Honestly it felt odd that they kept the pretence up so long since it was obvious what was going on.
 
Curious how T'evgin got Kindzi back on to the sleeper ship. They came down in HALO pods; are they bi-directional?

I dunno - after seeing the masterpiece that was the previous week and then this - seemed rather anti-climactic.

The drunken stupor depression montage seemed a little bit thick to me, as the kid who got blown up in the tunnel was the only one we really knew anything about and had gotten attached to. All the others were without any emotional impact at all. I found Nolan's melodrama to be a bit over the top, although that was somewhat erased when he discovered the dad. That one definitely hit home.

Oh, and for anyone curious what that rifle was that the dad put together for his son, it's actually a WWII-era Soviet PPSh-41 submachine gun. That thing is a REAL antique but, as with most Russian weapons, is extremely reliable and could feed a fence-post.
 
I enjoyed it. Quiet change of pace after last week's game changer but pretty good anyway. Okay, it was pretty obvious right away the "beast" was Kin'zy. So obvious I'm surprised the other characters didn't figure it out right away.

Still the episode was loaded with lots of nice moments. Yewll's rapport with the vet is top notch, and I'm going to be really disappointed if indeed he is dead. It's interesting to see Irisa take on a more proactive role in the lawkeeping business and be more on the ball than Nolan. Although Nolan's guilt consuming him and turning him drunk was also an interesting development for him too. The Irathient dad was a storyline that was starting to get a bit done with how one note it was with the dad being so overprotective of his son, but then it actually did make me give a damn with the tragic ending for the dad.

137th Gebirg said:
the kid who got blown up in the tunnel was the only one we really knew anything about and had gotten attached to. All the others were without any emotional impact at all.
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I actually made a joke along those lines watching the scene between Nolan and the dad near the beginning. When the dad asked Nolan "what makes my son so special?" I answered "he was the only one with dialogue."
 
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