The premiere was nine months later, and I doubt much more than a month has gone by in the show, if even that has gone by since.
Defiance Season 2 Discussion
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The premiere was nine months later, and I doubt much more than a month has gone by in the show, if even that has gone by since.
Whoa, I totally forgot about this. Watching Season 1, ep 2.
Stahma to Datak: Think of your life back on Casti. You were at the bottom layer of the lowest caste. Your life was degradation and poverty.
So it seems Datak would have been screwed if all the higher liro folk had woken up rather than blowing up.
Stahma to Datak: Think of your life back on Casti. You were at the bottom layer of the lowest caste. Your life was degradation and poverty.
Is the Castithan way really something you're eager to preserve?
So it seems Datak would have been screwed if all the higher liro folk had woken up rather than blowing up.
The higher ups are still there, they're in Brazil.
Actually... I said before that patches of the Earth might have been terraformed and reterraformed 6 times over as a joke... But no matter how the untargetted spires were firing randomly at the Earth, the internal logic of these things would avoid collisions and the nanites even if they ploughed into the Earth, those Nanites, even separate colonies released from different spires, should respond to the strongest radio signal giving them orders.
That's just good business.
So, since (most/some of) Brazil was already terraformed, other approaching spires would see that as a no-go zone, or it was already pre-black-listed, and veer off, but the command algorithms from the pre-existing terraformed site in Brazil would over-ride any nanites overlapping into their territory.
Brazil therefore was maybe the least effected site on Earth after the Arkfall, kinda like how a Stargate responds to a DHD before that Frankenstein suprermachintosh Carter built.
Although...
If the Arkfall was on purpose, and well planned, they had to make sure that their homeland was hit first and hit fast to sidestep responsibility, guilt and culpability.
Actually... I said before that patches of the Earth might have been terraformed and reterraformed 6 times over as a joke... But no matter how the untargetted spires were firing randomly at the Earth, the internal logic of these things would avoid collisions and the nanites even if they ploughed into the Earth, those Nanites, even separate colonies released from different spires, should respond to the strongest radio signal giving them orders.
That's just good business.
So, since (most/some of) Brazil was already terraformed, other approaching spires would see that as a no-go zone, or it was already pre-black-listed, and veer off, but the command algorithms from the pre-existing terraformed site in Brazil would over-ride any nanites overlapping into their territory.
Brazil therefore was maybe the least effected site on Earth after the Arkfall, kinda like how a Stargate responds to a DHD before that Frankenstein suprermachintosh Carter built.
Although...
If the Arkfall was on purpose, and well planned, they had to make sure that their homeland was hit first and hit fast to sidestep responsibility, guilt and culpability.
I'm wondering if any arks in orbit are still functioning with intact stasis units. They did find that fake astronaut who seemed rather precariously intact in a bag of goo, the stasis units should do better. I'm picturing some Casti emperor showing up and sending the Votan Collective into a spin since he will be taking away chunks of their power.
You're assuming that that sack wasn't an ordinary stasis unit?
Have we some reason (that stupid game!) to believe that the only person who we have seen in stasis(?) was not stored like every one else who was in stasis?
There can be no Arks in Earth orbit.
If a hundred ships the size of super tankers were shredded, and routinely razor rain is still dicing bystanders, then parking up there is like trying to sleep on a freeway in rush hour traffic.
However!
Some Arks chose to crash into the Earth, "chose" in this context having a completely inverted definition, and others if they were still space worthy might have chosen to push off from the earth away from the explosions and chaos and maybe head towards the Moon or Mars.
Even though Earth is an electromagnetic mess that laughs it ass off at Radio, if there are Arks running about the Solar System well to do la de dah, or building Moonbases, if they wanted Earth to know that they were still up there, there are ways to make their presence known if they wanted to.
All dead, or sneaky bastards.
Have we some reason (that stupid game!) to believe that the only person who we have seen in stasis(?) was not stored like every one else who was in stasis?
There can be no Arks in Earth orbit.
If a hundred ships the size of super tankers were shredded, and routinely razor rain is still dicing bystanders, then parking up there is like trying to sleep on a freeway in rush hour traffic.
However!
Some Arks chose to crash into the Earth, "chose" in this context having a completely inverted definition, and others if they were still space worthy might have chosen to push off from the earth away from the explosions and chaos and maybe head towards the Moon or Mars.
Even though Earth is an electromagnetic mess that laughs it ass off at Radio, if there are Arks running about the Solar System well to do la de dah, or building Moonbases, if they wanted Earth to know that they were still up there, there are ways to make their presence known if they wanted to.
All dead, or sneaky bastards.
We have seen many stasis units looking just like the stasis units in stargate. Upright, set into the wall in a row with the glass panel at head level shattered in most cases. And/or the person visibly atrophied inside. If one ship can maintain enough life support for a bag of goo I think there may be others still "on" with at least a few stasis units functioning. It's not like anyone has gone up to look.
Dearest, they're called Telescopes.
So how did they miss this ship with power turned on? And how many other ships or interior sections of ships with power turned on will they miss? There is a whole belt of debris, some of it pretty big, in earths orbit. Most of these ship chunks, if they have anything living on board are going to crash and burn if they fall to earth killing their contents. The ship with the goo guy was steered and may have ended up better preserved. Who knows how many other nanite infested pieces have fallen to earth, each one just waiting to start ordering their origin ship to do stuff when they get plugged into something that can do just that. Of course you need a ship with power, a live stasis unit, propulsion and a bit of itself landing in the right place and putting itself to use to do all that, unless there are some master nanites who can access anything in the destroyed fleet that is still navigable.
Hand held telescopes with ground glass/plastic lenses with still work.
Radio telescopes are junk.
There's no need to map all that garbage up there until man starts sending ships back up there.
Because looking at the junk up there and counting space junk is boring and impossible without globally networked computers.
Although... The job of meteorology just became a lot more Indiana Jones.
They don't forecast when a little bit of water is going to fall no more, it's now about when a million tons of spinning metal is going to take out one of the 7 remaining cities on the planet.
Okay.
Why do they want all the gulinite?
The opposite of a depth charge is called a height charge?
But if they were to bomb orbiting the debris, powderize it, with a few hundred nuclear devices,the world could return to how things used to be, as long as everything, includin ghte radiation, burnt up when it tried to enter the atmosphere..
Radio and air-flight would be back.
Radio telescopes are junk.
There's no need to map all that garbage up there until man starts sending ships back up there.
Because looking at the junk up there and counting space junk is boring and impossible without globally networked computers.
Although... The job of meteorology just became a lot more Indiana Jones.
They don't forecast when a little bit of water is going to fall no more, it's now about when a million tons of spinning metal is going to take out one of the 7 remaining cities on the planet.
Okay.
Why do they want all the gulinite?
The opposite of a depth charge is called a height charge?
But if they were to bomb orbiting the debris, powderize it, with a few hundred nuclear devices,the world could return to how things used to be, as long as everything, includin ghte radiation, burnt up when it tried to enter the atmosphere..
Radio and air-flight would be back.
It (wiki) says they can't fly above a few hundred feet because of electromagnetic distortion from malfunctioning terraformers. Wouldn't this be the terraformers already landed? In which case they still would be affected even if they took all the space junk and powdered it.
So I just noticed this background character Gail. She's the woman miner who is coming out of one of the Need Want rooms accusing little fey person of stealing money (which little fey person did for drugs) in episode 5 and then in episode 9 she's the hothead miner who kills one of the Iraths in the quarantine camp. Apparently was in ep 1 of Season 2 as well but I don't remember that but am planning to rewatch.
If the terraformers are on the ground and causing troubles, why not just turn them off? (destroy them)
Face it, Defiance hasn't really thought through it's setting.
This part of the game's main storyline. The terraformers uses a huge amount of energy and attempting to simply destroy them will set of an explosion larger than a nuke. I think someone's tried it before and some part of the earth is now an irradiated, barren wasteland. The players in game are involved in trying to reverse the terraformer's effects by reprogramming the terraformer... but lets just say there are other factions that don't want the terraforming stopped. The key person involved... fell off the golden gate bridge. So its still an on-going story.
Oh, yes, this week was an excellent episode. The simple act of having Datak released from prison has made the show a hundred fold more interesting and enjoyable. Rafe McCawley also had a great storyline this week and his final scene at the end of the episode where Pottinger shows up at his house, hands him the eviction notice and he just stoically accepts it and walks out is one of those great moments which perfectly encapsulates the character. Plus we get to see Nolan kicking people's asses, helping out where he can, and saving the day, proving he's so good at what he does. This episode had all the elements I enjoyed from season 1 and also set up some interesting storylines to pick up through the season.
See, this is what makes Defiance great, the drama of day-to-day affairs in a town where humans and aliens co-exist, which at the moment is under occupation of an unsubtly Nazi-esque totalitarian regime. Leave the oogy-boogy Irathient god crap out of this. Yeah, I know, the oogy-boogy's staying, but it can't be a coincidence the best episode of the season so far is the one which didn't feature it at all.
Some thoughts, though. When Pottinger's creepy bio-manservant said he wanted to track down the attackers and hurt them, that had me wondering, if Pottinger was taking a trip to an area with as dangerous a reputation as the Badlands appear to have, why didn't he take the big guy along anyway?
And again, I ask what is Berlin's job? Is she a security/intelligence officer, or is she a PR officer? Is it possible to be both, because she seems to be doing both jobs.
See, this is what makes Defiance great, the drama of day-to-day affairs in a town where humans and aliens co-exist, which at the moment is under occupation of an unsubtly Nazi-esque totalitarian regime. Leave the oogy-boogy Irathient god crap out of this. Yeah, I know, the oogy-boogy's staying, but it can't be a coincidence the best episode of the season so far is the one which didn't feature it at all.
Some thoughts, though. When Pottinger's creepy bio-manservant said he wanted to track down the attackers and hurt them, that had me wondering, if Pottinger was taking a trip to an area with as dangerous a reputation as the Badlands appear to have, why didn't he take the big guy along anyway?
And again, I ask what is Berlin's job? Is she a security/intelligence officer, or is she a PR officer? Is it possible to be both, because she seems to be doing both jobs.
Totally agree.
Nice bunch of politics and soap opera.
Not sure why Tommy turned so against Nolan? I mean I get it for the specifics of this episode and I guess he was always at odds with Nolan not doing stuff by the book but.. have I forgotten something? Is it just wah wah you left and now you're back?
Datak's fall, whoa. Let the plotting begin!
Still sad no Kenya, she was my favorite human.
Tommy was promoted to sheriff in Nolan's absence. Then Nolan returns and instantly gets his old job back, knocking Tommy back down to deputy. Not hard to see why he resents that.
How would you like it if your old boss quit, you get his job, and then, nine months later, he shows up and takes his job back?
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Nah, he was resenting Nolan even before that happened.
Really enjoyed this episode. The stuff with Rafe and his miners was great, and it gave us some great stuff Nolan too. The Datak story was also pretty good. I can't wait to see where they are going with that stuff.
So at the end Rafe was being evicted? I missed what they gave him, I just saw him looking sad.
I was pretty surprised by Pottinger's back story.
So at the end Rafe was being evicted? I missed what they gave him, I just saw him looking sad.
I was pretty surprised by Pottinger's back story.
Tommy was a boy in season one.
Now, he's a MAN.
Or at least he was a MAN when Nolan was gone.
Now he's a Man being treated like a boy again.
That sort of #### chaffs.
I finally noticed that Alak is Robbie from Being Human.
I am so slow.
It goes by real quickly, but the paper Pottinger gave him does say "Eviction Notice."
Honestly, I'm not sure I believe what he said about his childhood trauma. He seems like the kind of wormy kind of guy to make up a story about a traumatic event in his past to get Amanda to feel sympathy for him which helps get him get forgiven for mouthing off at her in the meeting and he learns something about her past which he can try to twist to his advantage.
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