I thought one of them is a singer.
Spoilers Deep Space 9: Revisited and Reassessed
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One of them has the ear of our president.
A lot of people make that mistake.
Finished watched "Sanctuary" (S2E10). Talk about renewed relevance! A race of 3 million Skkrreea, refugees from the Gamma quadrant, seeking settlement on Bajor seem inspired by today's headlines. The Skkrrea are understandably never really portrayed as sympathetic though their problem of finding a new home is dealt with empathy. Sympathy is withheld due to their odd instance to be allowed to homestead on Bajor, a planet still trying to right itself after a long occupation by a hostile power. It was also an episode of noticeable growth for Kira. Good stuff!
Also happen to catch a few episodes of Babylon 5 this past week on something called "Comet TV." That series doesn't seem to hold up nearly as well. It really doesn't. That surprised me as I was a fan back in the day, but now the writing comes across as far more juvenile. The advancements in CGI also has B5 dated and cartoonishly primitive while DS9's effects still hold up at this point in time.
That network also airs Space:1999 on the weekends. WOW, the model work is still super impressive! The stories are imaginative, but the subdued acting and slow European pacing can sure put me to sleep if I'm not careful.
Also happen to catch a few episodes of Babylon 5 this past week on something called "Comet TV." That series doesn't seem to hold up nearly as well. It really doesn't. That surprised me as I was a fan back in the day, but now the writing comes across as far more juvenile. The advancements in CGI also has B5 dated and cartoonishly primitive while DS9's effects still hold up at this point in time.
That network also airs Space:1999 on the weekends. WOW, the model work is still super impressive! The stories are imaginative, but the subdued acting and slow European pacing can sure put me to sleep if I'm not careful.
On Comet TV I came in about halfway through S4. S5 just started either last night or night before. Now originally I greatly enjoyed S1-4 and hated S5. I guess I was in the minority in that I liked (even preferred) Sinclair and thought S1 was excellent - I did not learn of the reasons for Michael O' Hares firing until years after the series was over.
I don't think anyone who wasn't really close to the situation had any idea why O'Hare had left the show. That was really tough.
I understood what they were going for with Sinclair, and he was a compelling character, but I just don't know whether I would have kept up with the show with him as the lead. Sheridan was much more dynamic, for better or worse.
I understood what they were going for with Sinclair, and he was a compelling character, but I just don't know whether I would have kept up with the show with him as the lead. Sheridan was much more dynamic, for better or worse.
Completed "The Alternate" (S2E12).
The previous episode, "Rivals", was rather mundane and did not inspire any feelings to pass on.
The stand out impression from "The Alternate," however was how arrogant and destructive the DS9 crew could be. They go to a planet in the Gamma quadrant and discover some ruins. Rather than record a holographic image of an obelisk for further study they just beam the whole thing up and take it back to DS9. Absolutely criminal! Talk about being supremely pompous, WOW! In a way it kind of justifies the eventual Dominion response as we see the trips into the Gamma quad are NOT benign little jaunts rather hostile raiding parties. And if this act of thievery came from Starfleet's finest then we can only imagine the imperialistic attitudes displayed by the various others who journeyed through the wormhole.
An okay episode overall. The Odo/Dr. Mora relationship was really rather nice and I wish they had followed up on it once or twice.
The previous episode, "Rivals", was rather mundane and did not inspire any feelings to pass on.
The stand out impression from "The Alternate," however was how arrogant and destructive the DS9 crew could be. They go to a planet in the Gamma quadrant and discover some ruins. Rather than record a holographic image of an obelisk for further study they just beam the whole thing up and take it back to DS9. Absolutely criminal! Talk about being supremely pompous, WOW! In a way it kind of justifies the eventual Dominion response as we see the trips into the Gamma quad are NOT benign little jaunts rather hostile raiding parties. And if this act of thievery came from Starfleet's finest then we can only imagine the imperialistic attitudes displayed by the various others who journeyed through the wormhole.
An okay episode overall. The Odo/Dr. Mora relationship was really rather nice and I wish they had followed up on it once or twice.
"Armageddon Game" (S2E13)
An okay episode. Another pairing of Bashir and O'Brien which made it nice. The T'Lani-Kellerun conspiracy to kill them made no sense. The resolution was weak. Felt like a bottle episode in that it was pretty light in that it really didn't forward anything, but did fill out the season. A solid "C."
An okay episode. Another pairing of Bashir and O'Brien which made it nice. The T'Lani-Kellerun conspiracy to kill them made no sense. The resolution was weak. Felt like a bottle episode in that it was pretty light in that it really didn't forward anything, but did fill out the season. A solid "C."
Other than my desire of Picard,
I think, possibly, I like Deep Space 9 better than Next Generation. ( oh nooooo! I actually typed that out loud)
I find that there is all sorts and levels of conflict to be more interesting than, Alien of the Week.
I like that the characters some to have at least some flaws. Other than things such as "works too hard", "caring more for others more than herself".
Some of the DS9 characters are truly messed up.
One of the best things about investing in characters more than story is that even bad episodes can be saved. The story might be terrible, but at least the characters are fun to watch. There are so many middling DS9 episodes that would have been abysmal if set aboard the Enterprise.
Let's jump over the Blu-Ray stage and go straight to UHD 4K!
Finished "Second Skin" (S3E5). A rather silly episode.
"Equilibrium" (S3E4) was rather good. Get's a touch wonky at the end but overall a good Trill episode. I'm sorry but episodes like these really highlights what DS9 lost when Terry Farrell left. Her strength was she could sell an episode better than anyone else.
"House of Quark" (S3E3) Loved it then. Love it now. The scene with Quark leading a group of battle tested warriors through a spreadsheet is as priceless as it gets. Quark was probably the best character in illustrating the pervasive ugliness of bigotry. Trek fans were given permission to believe it was okay to belittle the Ferrengi in general and Quark in particular (despite his constant going above and beyond for the benefit of the station). It gave the series an unintended and gritty piece of reality in that even in 24th century hypocrisy and socially approved racism was still alive and well.
The Search (S3E1&2) The introduction of the Founders and the Defiant. Not as exciting as last season's Jem'Hader in terms of foreshadowing what is to come, but it was fun to see Odo's "O" face. A solid episode for setting up what is to come.
"Jem'Hader" (S2E26). Still a "WOW" episode. Another installment where Quark is worthy of respect but doesn't get any thereby giving its audience tacit approval to be bigoted. The Jem'Hader declaring he had hoped to meet a Klingon was hair raising. Loved it.
"Tribunal" (S2E25) A mediocre episode. The Cardassians, at this point, are quickly becoming a crutch for the series to throw in whenever they need to pad out a season. This story (unlike "Second Skin") is a rather generic episode that if it had never been told the franchise would not have felt. At least "Second Skin," though weak, furthered a narrative of an impending civil war.
"The Collaborator" (S2E24) It was a disappointment to me that they decided to deemphasize the Bajoran storyline. This episode really suggests what we missed out on. Louise Fletcher as Winn Adami was incredible and compelling. She, in my book, was right up their with Larry Hagman's J.R. Ewing as a villain you loved to hate. She easily could have driven more stories than she was allowed. The story of Bajor was definitely it's most relevant arc and they lost a lot when they decided to mute it. A shame.
"Equilibrium" (S3E4) was rather good. Get's a touch wonky at the end but overall a good Trill episode. I'm sorry but episodes like these really highlights what DS9 lost when Terry Farrell left. Her strength was she could sell an episode better than anyone else.
"House of Quark" (S3E3) Loved it then. Love it now. The scene with Quark leading a group of battle tested warriors through a spreadsheet is as priceless as it gets. Quark was probably the best character in illustrating the pervasive ugliness of bigotry. Trek fans were given permission to believe it was okay to belittle the Ferrengi in general and Quark in particular (despite his constant going above and beyond for the benefit of the station). It gave the series an unintended and gritty piece of reality in that even in 24th century hypocrisy and socially approved racism was still alive and well.
The Search (S3E1&2) The introduction of the Founders and the Defiant. Not as exciting as last season's Jem'Hader in terms of foreshadowing what is to come, but it was fun to see Odo's "O" face. A solid episode for setting up what is to come.
"Jem'Hader" (S2E26). Still a "WOW" episode. Another installment where Quark is worthy of respect but doesn't get any thereby giving its audience tacit approval to be bigoted. The Jem'Hader declaring he had hoped to meet a Klingon was hair raising. Loved it.
"Tribunal" (S2E25) A mediocre episode. The Cardassians, at this point, are quickly becoming a crutch for the series to throw in whenever they need to pad out a season. This story (unlike "Second Skin") is a rather generic episode that if it had never been told the franchise would not have felt. At least "Second Skin," though weak, furthered a narrative of an impending civil war.
"The Collaborator" (S2E24) It was a disappointment to me that they decided to deemphasize the Bajoran storyline. This episode really suggests what we missed out on. Louise Fletcher as Winn Adami was incredible and compelling. She, in my book, was right up their with Larry Hagman's J.R. Ewing as a villain you loved to hate. She easily could have driven more stories than she was allowed. The story of Bajor was definitely it's most relevant arc and they lost a lot when they decided to mute it. A shame.
Jem'hadar is a wonderful script: how were all those story elements packed into less than 50 minutes?
Most episodes of DS9 had some useful bit of world-building or something that writers could pick up on down the road, even the bad episodes
"Tribunal" did not present anything we didn't already know. So again, it served no purpose other than filling out the season.
I discount the novels as non-canonical tripe so please don't mention them again (
). I did credit "Second Skin" with furthering the Cardassian's internal strife sub-plot thereby somewhat justifying itself. I just believe they could have easily done something better than what they did.Similar threads
