That is what we really need AI for. Just unperson him from the episode.
That isn't really fair. He did the work, he shouldn't be replaced.
That is what we really need AI for. Just unperson him from the episode.
Do we really need history to repeat itself?That is what we really need AI for. Just unperson him from the episode.
Do we really need history to repeat itself?
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Obviously you need to decanonize Amok Time. Vulcan is not depicted as a conquered world ...
I resist the idea of "decanonization" -- in part because it plays into the modern notion that "canon" is all-important. And that the quality of an episode somehow determines how "canon" it it.
And we can't rewrite history to pretend we never watched it.
That is what we really need AI for.... take an episode like The Deadly Years and AI the actors faces when they really were elderly onto the ep.
Unfortunately, stuff like this is liable to be wild with AI on the scene. And, it isn't AI's fault. This is purely a human compulsion to rewrite the past.
I remember that show!Do Japan or Germany look like conquered nations?
I get your being funny, but you've pushed me down a rabbit hole. What would a conquered Vulcan look like? Does the fact Spock serves as an equal contradict the notion of a conquered Vulcan?
Let's take Japan or Germany as examples. Anyone see or remember the old Andy Griff show "Salvage 1"?
Salvage 1 was a 1979 ABC science-fiction/comedy series starring Andy Griffith as Harry Broderick, a resourceful junk dealer who runs the "Jettison Scrap and Salvage Co." After realizing the massive amount of expensive equipment left on the moon by Apollo missions, Broderick builds a homemade spaceship from junkyard parts to go retrieve and sell it.
At any rate, the main characters in one episode encounter a marooned Japanese soldier hold out on some tropical island who still thinks the war is ongoing. After being convinced the war ended decades earlier, the soldier is returned to 1979 Japan. His first words on seeing Tokyo are "are you sure we lost?".
Why can't Amok Time depict a conquered Vulcan?
Yeah, I know we discard McCoy's throw away line....
However, if you want a serious answer, in my mind de-canonizing something just means that future productions no longer treat it as having happened.
The vast majority of what happens in any given Star Trek (or Doctor Who or whatever) episode never gets mentioned again anyway, so why bother coming up with an official procedure to specifically say it didn't happen?
Well, anything that we discuss here is just fans talking, so there would be nothing "official" about it. However, there have been some times when it has come up among the actual production team. Roddenberry reportedly did not want TFF considered a part of canon.The vast majority of what happens in any given Star Trek (or Doctor Who or whatever) episode never gets mentioned again anyway, so why bother coming up with an official procedure to specifically say it didn't happen?
The biggest reason I could see it coming up is if a future producer wanted to pick up from a certain point and not be tethered to what has already been done beyond that point. For example, if someone wanted to do a series set right after TNG, but didn't want to have to work within the confines of what was defined as happening at that time by DS9 and Voyager. Something like that.
Have you seen anything coming out of Hollywood in the last decade? They don't do "new" anymore.I'd really like to think that a future producer would rather just do something new.
My favourite genre of Star Trek is when they bring back something previously pretty explicitly de-canonized. Like the Transwarp Salamanders in Lower Decks or Sybok in SNW.The vast majority of what happens in any given Star Trek (or Doctor Who or whatever) episode never gets mentioned again anyway, so why bother coming up with an official procedure to specifically say it didn't happen?
It's been happening in officially licensed Trek stuff already to get around clearance issues.Do we really need history to repeat itself?
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there have been movies like Project Hail Mary that hopefully are showing the way that movies can still turn in a healthy profit without being part of a franchise. hopefully studios will listen, if for no other reason they've milked all the franchises dry.Have you seen anything coming out of Hollywood in the last decade? They don't do "new" anymore.
Have you seen anything coming out of Hollywood in the last decade? They don't do "new" anymore.
That's what I was thinking ofDo we really need history to repeat itself?
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That's what the popular kids in my high school didAnd declare that henceforth any discussion of Star Trek, old or new, that brings up canon will be grounds for pointing and laughing.
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