Spoilers DC TV Arrow/Flash Universe Crossover Discussion

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  1. Tim Thomason

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    Arrowverse is fine. I just hope that in five years the Monitor or Metron or someone doesn't show up in The Flash and start talking about some "grave threat to the Arrowverse."
     
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  2. The Old Mixer

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    Well, now we know where the Legion flight ring fits into the multiverse...it's Superman's!
     
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  3. Christopher

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    As I said in the Supergirl thread, I find it hard to believe they'd put in two separate nods to Supergirl in the same montage, since it seems redundant. We may be seeing the Legion in both universes, or maybe they haven't yet decided which show the Legion will appear in and planted seeds in both.
     
    Christopher, Mar 1, 2016
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  4. The Old Mixer

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    But it was on the same stand, which matches the Fortress's motif. Between this and "Brainiac 8", if they plan to do anything with the Legion, it'll be on Supergirl. Makes a ton of sense given the Legion's history.

    That, plus Occam's razor.
     
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  5. Dick Whitman

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    Well Kara, Supergirl herself was a member of the Legion too. Seems a natural.
     
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  6. Vendikarr

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    Why not? They put two separate references to Legends of Tomorrow in the montage (Connor Hawke and Jonah Hex)..
     
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  7. Christopher

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    ^Yeah, granted. And The Old Mixer's right that the ring seems to be in the Fortress of Solitude's display stand rather than on a hand as I'd thought.

    So if the Legion ring has no future relevance to the Arrowverse and was just an Easter egg, that may increase the chances that the glimpse of the '90 Flash was just an Easter egg rather than a clue to an upcoming storyline.
     
    Christopher, Mar 1, 2016
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  8. Vendikarr

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    You never know. There may be some version of the Legion of Three Worlds storyline in our fugure.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Crisis:_Legion_of_3_Worlds
     
    Vendikarr, Mar 1, 2016
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  9. The Old Mixer

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    I wouldn't put it that way...the bottom line is that so far, most of these things have turned up or are going to turn up in one of the Berlanti shows, including Supergirl. So the '90s Flash may very well fit that pattern, and if so, there's one natural place for him to show up.
     
    The Old Mixer, Mar 1, 2016
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  10. Christopher

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    But "may" is not "will." Skepticism is not a bad habit to cultivate.
     
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  11. JRoss

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    I have been a little distracted as I watch. Which episodes have these montages?
     
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  12. cylkoth

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    Flash Season 2's "Welcome to Earth 2". Barry, Wells and Cisco enter a dimensional breach to crossover to E2, and we- the audience, are shown windows that peer into other versions of reality, featuring what you've been reading here...
     
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  13. JRoss

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    Thanks. I work from home and always have my face buried in my laptop.
     
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  14. The Old Mixer

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    I just thought the reasoning was faulty..."The flight ring turned up on Supergirl instead of an Arrowverse show, so we probably won't be seeing the old Flash." The bottom line so far is that everything shown in that montage except Flash-90 has shown up on one of these shows (or is known to be slated to show up), so the pattern is promising.
     
    The Old Mixer, Mar 2, 2016
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  15. Christopher

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    You need to go back and read it again. I did not say "probably." I said "that may increase the chances." How you could interpret that as "probably" is beyond me. I'm just saying it's a possibility.
     
    Christopher, Mar 2, 2016
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  16. The Old Mixer

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    I wasn't quoting directly, but the bottom line is that I don't see how the Legion flight ring showing up on Supergirl instead of an Arrowverse show makes a Flash-90 appearance less likely. A) Why does it matter that one of those things showed up on Supergirl instead of a CW show? B) Everything else in that montage has shown up on one Berlanti show or another.
     
    The Old Mixer, Mar 2, 2016
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  17. TheAlmanac

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    As have I...despite the use of "Arrowverse" by TPTB (and my knowing someone personally who works in Vancouver on these shows), I've preferred "DCW" ever since I came across it on another site and will continue to use it.
     
    TheAlmanac, Mar 2, 2016
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  18. Christopher

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    I said "may." If you don't understand what "may" means, I can't help you.
     
    Christopher, Mar 2, 2016
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  19. The Old Mixer

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    And I dialed it down to "less likely"--What's your point? You'd rather quibble over semantics than explain your thought process.
     
    The Old Mixer, Mar 2, 2016
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  20. theenglish

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    Anyhow, it seems that 90s Flash and Supergirl both exist in the DCW multiverse. I think it is great that Berlanti and Johns are trying to actually portray the DCs multiverse setting.

    Theoretically, this means that the cinematic universe could also be included as could Smallville, Lois and Clark, the Burton Batman, or any other incarnation of DC heroes.

    It is really a brilliant strategy if you think about it--Cavill could show up on a television show as Superman from another Earth along with Tom Welling and Dean Cain and it all fits with established canon. Brandon Routh could be both the Atom and Superman.

    I am not saying that that would happen, but what Johns has done is set up the possibility that any of that is possible because it is the DC multiverse and all realities exist somewhere even if they are vibrating at a different speed. In that short thirty second clip it was established.
     
    theenglish, Mar 2, 2016
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