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According to Morrison and company, Supes isn't sure, at least in his youth, that he can have sexual relations with a normal human being. This would be another motivation for dating Wonder Woman. :lol:

The Planet is a media conglomerate, and Lois manages the television operation. So she'd be quite senior to Clark.

This all sounds a lot more interesting than one more iteration of the traditional set-up. Certainly Supergirl can always stand a different take...and I really have no interest one way or another in the Superboy character or title.
 
Actually Dennis that was JMS talking about his Earth Two volume two. This is what JMS stated:

The image shows Superman standing among what appeared to be charred skeletons. "Never piss off someone with heat vision," JMS said.

Other images show a dream sequence concerning what Superman might do — destroying a city. Another image depicts Superman with his neighbor Lisa, who is attracted to him, and they're discussing how he's not sure if he can have normal sexual relations. JMS continues to narrate: After a fight with Parasite, Superman temporarily loses his powers, and then at the end of that finds out that he missed his chance to have sex.
 
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This isn't the way to "progress" the medium in my opinion. From what I got from the 52 panel this morning DC's braintrust seems to have to taken into consideration "concerns" from only a certain segment of fans while completely ignoring their current loyal fanbase who have been with them through thick and thin and will no doubt continue to support them throughout this new endeavor. I simply don't see how their changes will "improve" certain characters but I guess we will find out in the coming months.
 
The end of Morrison and Finch's Batman: The Return has exactly that scene. Dick assumes that he's going to be Nightwing again because Bruce is back, and Bruce decides a on different path for Dick, largely because he (Bruce) can't work with Damian.
Yeah, but to me, that scene cemented Dick as Batman and Damien as Robin being the "new" Gotham Dynamic Duo. Since then has there been such a scene?
 
Gates of Gotham #3 actually has Dick questioning himself as Batman now. He even has internal monologue that states he thinks Tim would make a far better Batman than he would. I think he knows now that since Bruce is back he no longer needs to take up the mantle.

Oh yeah, regarding something DiDio answered when questioned by a fan. He said the Justice Society characters are being rested now. He continued by saying the Stormwatch characters were given a similar "rest" and are now back and for fans of the JSA to be patient. I laughed my ass off. To him to think that fans missing Stormwatch characters was the same thing as characters that are part of DC's long history.
 
So 23 of their writers have also been reading Marvel comics all this time?

I'm tentatively willing to say "yes." :p

It looks okay, although those Supergirl pages seem somewhat padded (by the script, not by Asrar, whose figurework I like, although I'm not seeing a spectacular range yet). I'd have to see the finished product to be sure (and even then, what would change? endless masses of Jeph Loeb-style narration*? people spouting ten sentences per panel, in an action scene, or on a splash?), but as I said before, the Mikes used up whatever benefit of the doubt I might have otherwise given them with Star Trek: Countdown, which was unrelentingly mediocre when it wasn't just bad.

*Fact: while his comics will remain intensely unenjoyable, Loeb books become 100% better if you pretend the narration boxes don't actually exist. (Not valid for The Long Halloween, which I'm pretty sure was actually written by Tim Sale.)

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. He continued by saying the Stormwatch characters were given a similar "rest"

Er, in the sense that Wildstorm died in a reboot spiral, yeah, I guess they sort of rested.
 
I like this bit:

"You don't want to have heroes that have faced their archnemesis countless times, that have saved the world countless times," Lee said, adding that they wanted to show more of a "struggle" and see the superheroes tested"

I really like the idea of making the characters a bit more raw and untested, and not being so damn sure and confident all the time.

Strange that they still want to keep the Doomsday stuff as part of Superman's history though. It never seemed like anything more than a cheap and shallow marketing ploy, and I don't really see why it HAS to be such a defining moment in his history.
 
It is a shame they are not going to use the JSA characters. But, I am sure they'll return eventually. When they do return, I hope they don't see the need to continually link them to World War II and, instead, timeline them up. I've recently had a change of heart about this, and I really see no logical reason why those characters would need to stay with that time period.

Strange that they still want to keep the Doomsday stuff as part of Superman's history though. It never seemed like anything more than a cheap and shallow marketing ploy, and I don't really see why it HAS to be such a defining moment in his history.

For better or worse, I think it is one of those story lines that everybody is going to remember and it is more worth having it around than deleting it. Plus, it did create some new, long-lasting characters from it where it would be easier to point to their origin than having to redo it.

Then again, just because it happened doesn't mean they will continually refer to it.
 
This isn't the way to "progress" the medium in my opinion. From what I got from the 52 panel this morning DC's braintrust seems to have to taken into consideration "concerns" from only a certain segment of fans while completely ignoring their current loyal fanbase who have been with them through thick and thin and will no doubt continue to support them throughout this new endeavor.

Yep, a recipe for disaster - ask the folks at Paramount who greenlighted J.J. Abrams's Star Trek movie.

If the majority of disgruntled folks will "no doubt continue to support them" as trekkies have Abrams and company, these changes are a win.
 
There's TONS of other artwork up on DC's The Source Blog. I am really liking most of this artwork that I am seeing. I don't care what anyone else says, I'm still looking forward to this. But then I always try to star optimistic when it comes to this kind of this kind of stuff.
Edit: But then again, I'm new to all of this, so that might change once I star reading more of the current comics, and become more attached to the current versions.
 
I agreed with a lot of what he said. I think they should have done what Todd suggested and spread out these 52 over the span of several months. If fans decide to drop books because they don't like them for whatever reason they're going to suffer right off the bat even if the expected books are selling high for them. They're all in. They're going to be taken out if this blows up. That's the risk they decided to take though.
 
This isn't the way to "progress" the medium in my opinion. From what I got from the 52 panel this morning DC's braintrust seems to have to taken into consideration "concerns" from only a certain segment of fans while completely ignoring their current loyal fanbase who have been with them through thick and thin and will no doubt continue to support them throughout this new endeavor.

Yep, a recipe for disaster - ask the folks at Paramount who greenlighted J.J. Abrams's Star Trek movie.

If the majority of disgruntled folks will "no doubt continue to support them" as trekkies have Abrams and company, these changes are a win.

In order for your analogy to work, we'd have to have seen a mega successful Trek movie from the same burnt out people who fucked Trek up in the first place.

We didn't.

And comics have NOWHERE near the same visibility as a multi-million dollar movie.

The same people who have fucked DC up with their shitty, insular neo-Silver Age are the same people we're supposed to trust are "fixing it".

They won't.

This reboot is DC's "Enterprise" moment....not their "Star Trek 09" moment. DiDio and Lee are the Berman and Braga of DC. They're out of steam, out of ideas and they've got nothing new to offer except a jumbled, confusing mess of a reboot/relaunch, whatever.

They have yet to meet their J.J. Abrams.

And no, it isn't Geoff Johns. At BEST, he's their Manny Coto.

This will be undone in a few years and as someone else said, these twits will be talking about how they "planned it that way all along."

See Bart Allen's run as the Flash for a precedent.
 
There's TONS of other artwork up on DC's The Source Blog. I am really liking most of this artwork that I am seeing. I don't care what anyone else says, I'm still looking forward to this. But then I always try to star optimistic when it comes to this kind of this kind of stuff.
Edit: But then again, I'm new to all of this, so that might change once I star reading more of the current comics, and become more attached to the current versions.

Ah, so that's images from all the titles that are gonna be canceled first.
 
In order for your analogy to work, we'd have to have seen a mega successful Trek movie from the same burnt out people who fucked Trek up in the first place.

Since it wasn't an analogy to begin with, trying to undermine it by carrying it too far or treating it too literally works even less well than it ordinarily would.

It's simply an observation about business decisions. The risk level here is simply not high, and the alternative of maintaining the status quo is not attractive. And we've seen that throwing out what trufans consider to be the baby along with the bathwater has worked pretty well lately.

The same people who have fucked DC up with their shitty, insular neo-Silver Age are the same people we're supposed to trust are "fixing it".

Gee, guess you don't like their comics. Guess what - DC wasn't working any better, commercially, before the people you're blaming took control. You just personally liked the previous stuff more.

This will be undone in a few years...

Of course it will, and so what? That's the way it's worked for a long, long time. Feel free to be angry about gravity, too.
 
Yeah I can see Geoff Johns as the comic equivalent of a showrunner. He's also though very much a part of this restructure as well. DiDio and Lee have made a point to make that clear in their panels this weekend.

I shouldn't say that I hope this blows up in the face. I will follow the comics that I'm interested in and ignore the ones that I'm not. There really isn't a need to get all edgy about this. I guess we're just all expressing our opinions about this thing. I do think though they should have went about introducing this in a different way.
 
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