DC to REBOOT???

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Some of the more interesting answers from an interview CBR did with Bob Harras and Eddie Barganza:

Berganza: Just because we're starting with new #1s doesn't mean we're getting rid of the history attached. A lot of those big, important storylines are remaining in tact. What happened in "A Death In The Family" stays true, and so does "Blackest Night," "Brightest Day," "The Killing Joke"...
Harras: "Identity Crisis." Again, this is a well thought out process before we went forward.

Berganza: The thing you have when you're working with Geoff and Jim is that they're giving you some background as to what brought these heroes together. Grant is introducing Superman into the world in a realistic manner to ask "What would you do with this guy who has these powers and abilities?" It gives you that perspective that we lose sometimes because we're in comics on a day-to-day basis. It has that realism and that initial wave of real reaction from the public. And that idea builds out to the other titles and the guys are working on.

Harras: We've taken a long time to build up this relaunch, and one thing is that we did look at how all the continuity of our characters worked and the events that were very important to them which would ripple across their loves. Eddie and his team created a timeline of the DCU and the DC characters that is very important to us. It's a document we're using all the time going forward for all the characters that incorporates their pasts and serves a platform for future stories.
Berganza: It's a living, breathing document, and as ideas come through, we find out what fits and what makes for the best story. We keep adding to their lives.
Harras: But everything's based on what's most important to the character and what events have had an impact on their lives that will drive story in the future.
Berganza: And what's nice is that those events are usually the ones that fans really like and the ones that we like. It makes for a nice history.

 

[Snick27]

Hmm i rather they did a hard reboot, so if lots of things dont get changed then whats the point?

 

[Hound of UIster]

To sell comic books?

 

[Snick27]

Not sure if this is right place for this question. But when the first Crisis happened, how much where the comics?

Cause u can buy them now and dwnload thru DC.
https://read.dccomics.com/comixology/#/series/4970

But each comic is $1.99 each. Im sorry but to me that kind of expensive for a book that came out like forever ago.


Plus they have older GreenLantern and Superman for $1.99. If the comics were only 99 cents and 50 cents for older ones then it be great, but $2 and some books even more? Come on DC do better.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

A couple of bucks isn't much money. I pay more than that for a cup of coffee.

 

[Snick27]

A couple of bucks isn't much money. I pay more than that for a cup of coffee.

is when you havent read those or the whole series and want to read them. $2 times 20 comics is $40 bucks.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

And...?

Here - buy the whole thing at Amazon - 11 to 25 bucks, depending.

 

[Snick27]

Hell Infinite Crisis each is $2.99 and 7 books total. 1st is free but leaves 6 to buy and thats $18 bucks. Sorry but the comics arent worth that and when u would love to get your kids to read some comics, kind of hard at that price.


Cheaper to buy the kids a DS game for there Nintendo.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Well, the Nintendo will certainly contribute to their literacy.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Hell Infinite Crisis each is $2.99 and 7 books total. 1st is free but leaves 6 to buy and thats $18 bucks. Sorry but the comics arent worth that and when u would love to get your kids to read some comics, kind of hard at that price.


Cheaper to buy the kids a DS game for there Nintendo.

And THAT is exactly why the comic industry is struggling. Cost versus Entertainment time. That DS will give your kid more entertainment than reading 1 comic for 20 minutes... unless, of course, it's a modern comic with lots and lots of splash pages, and it's 10 minutes of reading.

 

[Snick27]

And...?

Here - buy the whole thing at Amazon - 11 to 25 bucks, depending.

Thats my point. On DC website it cost $22 bucks when on Amazon its cheaper. Point is they need to price it better or people like us will go other places to get them.

 

[Snick27]

Hell Infinite Crisis each is $2.99 and 7 books total. 1st is free but leaves 6 to buy and thats $18 bucks. Sorry but the comics arent worth that and when u would love to get your kids to read some comics, kind of hard at that price.


Cheaper to buy the kids a DS game for there Nintendo.

And THAT is exactly why the comic industry is struggling. Cost versus Entertainment time. That DS will give your kid more entertainment than reading 1 comic for 20 minutes... unless, of course, it's a modern comic with lots and lots of splash pages, and it's 10 minutes of reading.

I can go to book store and get my son and daughter books for a couple bucks or let them dwn load books onto my Kindle for like .99 cents.

Comics have to be cheaper if they want people to dwn load them Legally that is.

And do you think my child is going to only read 1 comic? Heck no they want to sit for a hr or so and just with the Flashpoint comics, there isnt much to actually read and wont take them long to read through them.

 

[BillJ]

Well, the Nintendo will certainly contribute to their literacy.

Don't think I've ever seem my oldest son read a book outside of school work and he's planning on being an engineer and had the second highest math test scores and the third highest reading comprehension scores in the entire school.

After school he does nothing but a few chores, some drawing and a ton of video games.

 

[Misfit Toy]

Captain Marvel just doesn't belong in the DCU and never did. It's a pity that no one apparently sees any commercial value in multiple imprints for this kind of thing.

It was on its own Earth until COIE, with a few, limited crossovers with Superman and Supergirl. I don't remember how long the Shazam! title ran after its 1973 debut though...

 

[Thestral]

I've only encountered Marvel as part of the shared DCU, and I've always thought he fit fine. Though granted I've only really seen him as a character in Kingdom Come and his time with the JSA. Black Adam, oddly enough, seems to have become more popular.

 

[Mike Farley]

Not sure if this is right place for this question. But when the first Crisis happened, how much where the comics?

The regular books were 75 cents and the double sized issues were $1.25. Of course that was 25 years ago.

I think they need to come up with some kind of digital "trade" where you can buy a run of books at some discount.

 

[Mr Light]

Well I'm glad to hear they're not completely jettisoning the continuity. So basically this the same thing as Zero Hour then, just some tweaks

 

[Myasishchev]

Not sure if this is right place for this question. But when the first Crisis happened, how much where the comics?

The regular books were 75 cents and the double sized issues were $1.25. Of course that was 25 years ago.

I think they need to come up with some kind of digital "trade" where you can buy a run of books at some discount.

Indeed. Especially given that large numbers of them are completely terrible and an equally large number mediocre--we aren't talking Watchmen or even Man of Steel here--an entire run of Action, for example, up till roughly 2001 should cost along the lines of $100 at most.

Without getting into a policy argument that there's no obvious reason the tail should be permitted to get that long on previously published works, the fact is that DC is pricing something that costs them virtually nothing well beyond what any sizeable market is willing to pay or could even possibly pay.

Then again, these are the same people who can't seem to do anything but break their base of ~500,000 customers over 52 titles and charge $3 a pop for, as noted, for a chance at ten minutes of entertainment. Prostitutes don't cost much more than comics.

Berganza: The thing you have when you're working with Geoff and Jim is that they're giving you some background as to what brought these heroes together. Grant is introducing Superman into the world in a realistic manner to ask "What would you do with this guy who has these powers and abilities?" It gives you that perspective that we lose sometimes because we're in comics on a day-to-day basis. It has that realism and that initial wave of real reaction from the public. And that idea builds out to the other titles and the guys are working on.

Now this is a hilarious crock. Grant Morrison couldn't write a story about realistic global response to a washer-dryer combo, let alone a superhuman. Has this dude ever read a Grant Morrison comic? He thinks people can have back-up personalities and that fish evolved on Mars.

Which isn't to say he is not the no. 2 talent in the field, despite five years in the wildnerness of an incomprehensible or at least not-worth-comprehending Batman story (and that he got cut off at the knees is pretty hilarious). Only that "realism" is not the first thing I think about, when I think about, say, The Invisibles or Animal Man.

Berganza: Just because we're starting with new #1s doesn't mean we're getting rid of the history attached. A lot of those big, important storylines are remaining in tact. What happened in "A Death In The Family" stays true, and so does "Blackest Night," "Brightest Day," "The Killing Joke"...
Harras: "Identity Crisis." Again, this is a well thought out process before we went forward.

This of course saddens me. I was hoping the one good thing that could be taken from Crisis on Infinite Flash would be the de-Meltzerization of the DCU.

Then again, this also does not seem accurate based on what has already been seen. But if so, it'd be nice to see Barbara Gordon actually have to overcome shit, versus "it's an imaginary story, but aren't they all?"

Black Adam, oddly enough, seems to have become more popular.

It's weird how Namor finally hit it big, but only at DC.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

I don't remember how long the Shazam! title ran after its 1973 debut though...

35 issues. The Power of Shazam! ran for 48 issues in the 1990s.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Here is the entire interview that CBR did.

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dcnu-bob-harras-eddie-berganza-history-in-tact-110615.html

Indeed. It would appear that this is just a relaunch not a full blown reboot as was incorrectly assumed at first.


I just read today's issue of Power Girl. Rao I'm going to miss this book.