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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

Yeah, I think you're arguing something different to me. You quoted me talking about the ridiculousness levels but that's seemingly not actually what your beef is. (Or if it is, we seem to be aiming past each other.)

Its both--ridiculous that Donner, et al., thought there was any value in adding that to the film, which was also offensive / in bad taste in both cases.
 
I wonder have the Bond producers ever come under pressure to start giving the films more conventional titles with “James Bond” in the title or does the series’ longevity mean that the odd/random/unrelated titles form a sort of brand recognition in their own right?

The latter would be the case; after EON used all of Fleming's titles, all other Bond movie titles tried to capture that style / flavor, which is one of the series signatures--none using Bond's name. It would seem to movie serial-esque to have a "James Bond and the..." as a title; that worked for Indiana Jones movies, but considering that character's influences, its understandable.
 
Is there a thread for general DC discussion, or is this kind of it?

Thanks to HBO Max, I recently discovered the Harley Quinn cartoon. Working my way through season 1.
 
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I wonder have the Bond producers ever come under pressure to start giving the films more conventional titles with “James Bond” in the title or does the series’ longevity mean that the odd/random/unrelated titles form a sort of brand recognition in their own right?

I suspect that their longevity is what has protected that aspect of the brand. It's why James Bond gets to keep his unique titles but Jack Ryan did not.

Even if they don't have it as official part of the title, a lot of the posters and ads have 007 on them somewhere.

That is also a reason.

Tim Burton apparently at one stage wanted to call the film that became Batman Returns “Batman” on the basis that people would know it was a new one in the cinemas & when it was on tv they’d just watch it for a while & figure out which one it was.

:rolleyes:Thus why Tim Burton is only MOSTLY a genius.:nyah::ouch:

Also, the Superman Theme is not be cheap to use. So there might be a good reason to be using it.

It's the greatest theme in the history of movies. That's reason enough for me! :D
 
Hackman's Luthor was one of the best things about the Donner film, as he tried to add color and a feeling that there was something behind his desire for power, but Otis was a frequent distraction and made no sense: why would someone as intelligent, detail-oriented, secretive (until he tries to trap Superman) and ambitious as Luthor rely almost exclusively on a simpleton? One might write it off as "the absurdity of the subject" but even non-comedic fantasy has to play it straight enough for the conflict to sell.

Hackman's Luthor was one of the worstB things about the Reeve films. There was nosense of his "genius", only Luthor talking about it. He was a salesman more than anything. Otis magnified it, but he was just an awful nemesis for Superman.

And going back to what you said @TREK_GOD_1 about Superfriends... i don't think there is any big push to make a movie version of the cartoon... but many people haven't seen the show, let alone got a chance to hate it... but the general public already knows this group of heroes, at least the general membership.

I can't believ i agrred with @Christopher , but i agree they didn't need to do separate films like Marvel did. They already had "cultural permission" to just start off with the Justice Leagie, especially legacy heroes like Superman.

The only aspect of Superfirends that would be good to keep would be the "Challenge of the Superfriends"...specifically the Legion of Doom.. (having a villain team from the get go, so the League aren't batlting random demons). They don't have to name ithe Legion as such in the movie (like they didn't with Justice League). But a few easter eggs would make enough fans happy that some good buzz could be generated (Like the FLash TV series when we herd different aspects like John Wesley Schipp) -- it can still be its own thing, but honoring what came before.

I personally would have liked it styled after Justice League INternation by Keith Giffen and J. M. DeMatteis, and by Kevin Maguire, For me, that was a FUN comic book, and would have been great to see.
 
Hackman's Luthor was one of the worstB things about the Reeve films. There was nosense of his "genius", only Luthor talking about it.
I dunno, man. Conceiving and successfully executing (but for Superman's intervention) the plan to use a nuke on the San Andreas Fault to dump half of California into the ocean was not exactly the work of a mental midget. Neither was the creation of Nuclear Man from a frigging hair; that's a revolutionary scientific achievement for the ages. Not to mention the business of correctly extrapolating the existence and nature of Kryptonite and its effects on Superman, based on nothing more than deduction and a National Geographic article.

Hackman's Luthor is demonstrably a genius, and then some.
 
I can't believe i agreed with @Christopher , but i agree they didn't need to do separate films like Marvel did. They already had "cultural permission" to just start off with the Justice League, especially legacy heroes like Superman.

Yes & no. I think that Batman is so thoroughly established in the pop culture that he needs no further introduction. You can just drop Batman anywhere and people know what's going on (SEE The Lego Movie). Superman doesn't necessarily need an introduction but I think people wanted one. It had been so long since the first Christopher Reeve movie that I think people wanted to see a more modern take on his origin story. Beyond that, maybe you don't NEED individual movies introducing each member of the Justice League, but I think it does help. A crossover isn't as fun if you're not familiar with all of the elements being crossed over. At the very least, I think that they should have had Aquaman and Justice League swap places in the release schedule. People watching Justice League would feel happier to see Aquaman there if they already knew him from his own movie. Plus, it would have given them more time to fine-tune Justice League and make adjustments during pre-production based on audience reactions to Batman v. Superman.
 
I'm not surprised a lot of people were upset about the conflicting panels, I know I sure was. I have to wonder what they were thinking when they scheduled so many of the big movie, TV, and game panels all at the same time. They had to realize that there were a lot of people out there who were interested in all of that stuff.
 
Of course, a 3 week gap is also a bit odd. Why not do it like a normal convention, with a Friday night, Saturday, then Sunday schedule. Or at least the following weekend to keep the momentum up at least a little bit.
 
Yeah, that is really weird, pretty much all of the other digital conventions have stuck to the normal schedules with 2-4 consecutive days.
 
Another quick teaser for the Snyder Cut.

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