DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

[Anwar]

Thanks to the MCU reducing the character to a Stark-worshiping Spidey-Lad who bounced around like a character with no sense of the kind of life he lived in costume, or its consequences--like the greatest Spider-Man stories from the Silver/Bronze Age.

That kind of life no longer would make any sense in the modern world, barely made sense in those comics and certainly wouldn't make sense in a world that remember that Spider-Man isn't the only superhero in existence.

This is the outdated stuff that I was talking about.

 

[Anwar]

even Rosemary Harris and Sally Field never portrayed May as a "frail" old lady.

Tobey and Andrew certainly thought they were frail old ladies who'd die if they knew the truth about him. Because of the contrived nonsense of how Peter thought "no one must ever know my secret" even though all that thinking did was cause him unnecessary hassles.

I'm just not that impressed by the MCU Spider-Man movies.

That's fine.

BTW, the reason why they keep making him a kid is because adult Spider-Man truly and utterly sucks as a team player in the comics. Even when he was in the New Avengers he sucked as a team player. To make him workable in a shared universe, they made him a kid to bypass that.

 

[fireproof78]

People would do well to watch the Animated Series.

 

[Anwar]

People would do well to watch the Animated Series.

Which one, the 90s one or Spectacular or the MTV one?

 

[fireproof78]

Which one, the 90s one or Spectacular or the MTV one?

90s.

 

[The Knappos]

People would do well to watch the Animated Series.

That is, for me, the definitive screen adaptation.

I also really love Spectacular Spider-Man. That got everything so right too, for a different decade.

 

[Tosk]

I suppose if you cut out every scene with Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carey and remove the plot involving the brainwave device, you might be able to make a darker take out of it maybe.
But something tells me the tone is pretty much baked into the whole movie by virtue of the plot and acting styles.

And we've already seen a big chunk of the deleted material thanks to the DVD/Blu. I have no doubt Forever can be improved, but I don't think people should expect a miracle.

But I'm always down for seeing an alternate cut. They're almost always at least interesting.

 

[Christopher]

I also really love Spectacular Spider-Man. That got everything so right too, for a different decade.

Great show, but I was never a fan of the character designs. And it was cancelled mid-storyline, which is frustrating. (Not even due to ratings, but due to corporate politics, with Marvel getting back the TV animation rights and wanting to start from scratch rather than continue the existing show. To add insult to injury, the replacement show Ultimate Spider-Man wasn't nearly as good.)

And we've already seen a big chunk of the deleted material thanks to the DVD/Blu. I have no doubt Forever can be improved, but I don't think people should expect a miracle.

I actually rather liked Forever when I first saw it. I was won over when Batman saved the thug from falling down the elevator shaft, when Burton's Batman would probably have pushed him. I still think it has its merits, though my opinion has fallen on rewatches.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

In case anyone missed this...

The Flash Supergirl star says she got Henry Cavill's seal of approval: 'That meant the world'

Sasha Calle, who plays Kara Zor-El, Clark Kent's Kryptonian relative, in the new movie, tells EW that she met Man of Steel headliner Henry Cavill and received his stamp of approval.

"Yes, I met him," she exclaims. "I met him actually after the movie was done, months later. I gave him a big hug. You know, it's Henry Cavill, man! Our Man of Steel. He is kind and very proper, and it was a great experience."

"I asked him, 'Did I make you proud, cuz? Does Superman approve?'" she continues. "And he was like, 'Absolutely. You did a phenomenal job.' I think, to me, that meant the world, because it's Henry Cavill, Man of Steel."

Very supportive of film's greatest Superman, and Calle's excitement is easy to understand with her "Our Man of Steel" compliment.

Although her solo film was reportedly dropped, Calle has said she hoped she would be the actress to land the role in the new universe Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow film, although that is not the same SG as the one Calle portrays in The Flash.

 

[JD]

Great show, but I was never a fan of the character designs. And it was cancelled mid-storyline, which is frustrating. (Not even due to ratings, but due to corporate politics, with Marvel getting back the TV animation rights and wanting to start from scratch rather than continue the existing show. To add insult to injury, the replacement show Ultimate Spider-Man wasn't nearly as good.)

I only watched the first episode of Ultimate, which I wasn't that impressed by, but I did really like the show they did after that one.

 

[Christopher]

I only watched the first episode of Ultimate, which I wasn't that impressed by, but I did really like the show they did after that one.

You mean Marvel's Spider-Man, the one with "Horizon High" and all that? Yeah, that one was pretty good.

Ultimate had its merits -- Paul Dini was one of its main writers -- but overall I was lukewarm about its approach, and Drake Bell wasn't as good a Spidey as Christopher Daniel Barnes and Josh Keaton before him or Robbie Daymond after him.

 

[JD]

Yeah, the Horizon High one. I only saw about 1/2 the first season, but it at least got off to a good start. I was probably going to watch it start to finish once I get through Spectacular, both on Disney+.

 

[Christopher]

Yeah, the Horizon High one. I only saw about 1/2 the first season, but it at least got off to a good start. I was probably going to watch it start to finish once I get through Spectacular, both on Disney+.

I did that with MSM when I got D+ (they didn't have SSM at the time). IIRC, the first two seasons were generally excellent but the shorter third season was weaker.

 

[JD]

OK, good to know.

 

[thribs]

I’m surprised the mods haven’t told us off yet for talking about Spidey in a DC thread.

 

[Tosk]

Spider-Man fought Superboy once (heck, he even merged with him for a while!), so it's all good.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I’m surprised the mods haven’t told us off yet for talking about Spidey in a DC thread.

Well, Spider-Man has run into a DC hero from time to time, starting in '76...

 

[Dee1891]

And we've already seen a big chunk of the deleted material thanks to the DVD/Blu. I have no doubt Forever can be improved, but I don't think people should expect a miracle.

But I'm always down for seeing an alternate cut. They're almost always at least interesting.

Honestly? I certainly didn't think "Batman Forever" was a great summer blockbuster. But I did enjoy it more than the two Batman films directed by Tim Burton.

 

[JD]

Well, Spider-Man has run into a DC hero from time to time, starting in '76...

I really wish the two companies could cooperate again and release digital versions of the crossovers, and Amalgam Comics, I would love to read them.

 

[Aragorn]

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Michael Rosenbaum interviews James Gunn. Talks about superhero fatigue (says it's more about the laziness of spectacle filmmaking and repetition/being generic than the number of superhero movies), taking over DC and taking on Superman.