DC Cinematic Universe ( The James Gunn era)

[dahj]

That's not a accurate reflection of what normal non-fans/normal audience members who they are trying to target will know about.

The 1980 movie was pretty popular and everybody knows the Queen soundtrack.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

The 1980 movie was pretty popular and everybody knows the Queen soundtrack.

There was a 1980 Flash Movie?

 

[Christopher]

There was a 1980 Flash Movie?

I assume it's a joke about the Dino De Laurentiis Flash Gordon movie.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I assume it's a joke about the Dino De Laurentiis Flash Gordon movie.

Ah, IC.

 

[dahj]

Some spell Barry, some spell Gordon.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I'm not sure if I'm being clear here, I'm not talking about fans of the TV show specifically, all I meant was that a lot of people must have been aware of and interested in the character since the show's pilot and early episodes, which would have been before people had any attachment to that specific version of the character, did really well.
So obviously The Flash was not a totally unknown character that nobody care about, since people were able to make the show's early episodes a success based solely on the fact that it was The Flash.
OK, yes technically this version of the character was introduced on Arrow, but I think The Flash did a lot better than Arrow, so obviously a lot of people who didn't watch Arrow did watch The Flash.

Obviously, CW's Arrow was the gateway which introduced the CW/Flash to its Berlanti audience, so it was not some completely untested idea (your "not a totally unknown character"), hence the character getting his own series. That said, the series appealed to a certain kind of viewer (rather, one enjoyed at least some of the Berlanti style/content), which was--ultimately--a niche audience, one that would not have a greater bearing to an unrelated, big movie universe character.

 

[Commander Troi]

Also, the Flash movie just sucked.

 

[Christopher]

Also, the Flash movie just sucked.

I felt it largely worked but had some major flaws that felt like they were the result of executive meddling.

 

[The Realist]

Except for the callous treatment of Sasha Calle's quite marvelous Supergirl (a major sticking point for me), I generally enjoyed it.

 

[Mage]

Also, the Flash movie just sucked.

I honestly feel that there is a lot that works really well in this movie. And despite the lead's actual character, they did bring a character to life I enjoyed. But the things that don't work stand out in such a way, it throws a shadow over the movie.
But honestly, I don't mind rewatching it.

 

[BillJ]

Ezra Miller's name being attached likely did the movie no favors at the box office.

 

[The Realist]

I feel like geek fandom was a lot more aware of Miller's issues than was the general public, which is where the real money is made for a tentpole feature like this. IOW, I question how much effect it actually had.

 

[BillJ]

I feel like geek fandom was a lot more aware of Miller's issues than was the general public, which is where the real money is made for a tentpole feature like this. IOW, I question how much effect it actually had.

I'm sure his issues probably were reported by places like Variety and other entertainment sites that don't focus on geek fandom.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I'm sure his issues probably were reported by places like Variety and other entertainment sites that don't focus on geek fandom.

People who read Variety are a different flavor of geek.

 

[BillJ]

People who read Variety are a different flavor of geek.

Though probably far wider in interests than your garden variety TrekBBS geek.

 

[The Realist]

People who read Variety are a different flavor of geek.

Right. Average "let's go see a movie" guy/gal on the street is lucky if they know who Ezra Miller is, much less the allegations against them.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Though probably far wider in interests than your garden variety TrekBBS geek.

True, they like romcoms or musicals as well.

 

[BillJ]

Right. Average "let's go see a movie" guy/gal on the street is lucky if they know who Ezra Miller is, much less the allegations against them.

Looking at the search page, there is a lot of reporting on him.

 

[The Realist]

And we know how much attention the average American pays to reporting.

 

[JD]

I know it doesn't work that way by "Official English Language Rules".
But I'm going to do what I want based on what I desire.
So yeah, there's that.

Yeah, but when it comes to names like this, spelling in important, so technically SuperGirl would be a different character from Supergirl.

Which shouldn't matter. Nobody had heard of Indiana Jones before 1981. Nobody had heard of John Wick before 2014. Successful movies make their characters popular, not the other way around.

And to keep this in the comic book realm, nobody but the most hardcore Marvel readers had ever heard of the Guardians of the Galaxy before 2014. I was originally going to use Iron Man as an example, but I think he had at least a little bit of name recognition by the time the first movie came out, especially compared to the Guardians, who were complete unknowns.

No, that's insanely reductionist. Yes, Flash is a b lister compared to Batman. No, that is not the same as z listers who most people have never heard like the gotg. Flash has been a comics mainstay for most of DC's history, a cartoon mainstay for decades, a video game mainstay for many years, the star of two live action tv shows, and regularly referenced on other (non-dc) shows as well as had tons of prominent merch ever since 'nerdy' became 'cool'.

The character was also referred to quite a bit on The Big Bang Theory, which was one of the most popular shows on TV for a while.