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There are problems even with regular flu vaccines, people are all different and depending on ones circumstances different people react differently to other people, that isn't a problem it's just how it is.

This whole idea of Freedom Day in the UK is absolutely nuts
 
The point is, there are problems with these vaccines right now that too many people seem to want to sweep under the rug.

Such as? And which sources generated these? Factcheckers have debunked quite a few.

Also, aren't there more and bigger problems with the novel coronavirus itself?

The people who have died after receiving the vaccines....

People have died in receiving the virus. Even younger ones. The statistical numbers show the virus itself is responsible for more.

we hear about underlying conditions.

A mere reminder that not everyone is perfect and how ailments and treatments don't always work 100% the same. Add in drug-resistant medications, drug cocktails and it gets way more complex than that. Or "TLDR", as some may opine. Or "TDLR" since "baby talk" is used to replace proper phraseology such as "drug-resistant strains" with "superbugs".)

An analogy could be drawn to an electrical overload. Some systems, or in this case lives, will be immediately shorted-out, while others will be weakened and will fail prematurely as time progresses. Some of these underlying conditions may not have resulted in death at all if not for that extreme shock to the body. In that way, a vaccine can not be held blameless.

True. That will be true of the virus. Maybe it will be true for the vaccine. If anything, would have waiting 6 more months while wearing masks have allowed enough time to rule out most vaccine theories? (There's been nearly a decade of research already invested in mRNA, if not more depending on where you drawa theoretical line. If this were all within the span of one year, some tinfoil hats may be more valid.

Through it all, I say give people as many facts as possible and keep them updated.

^^this

Don't over-emphasize small percentages of problems, but don't gloss over them or make it seem like they don't exist, either.

^^this, especially with coercion (physical, mental, or emotional) or misinformation (e.g. coercion).

If there is some risk, even if it is small, just let people know. Don't hammer away so hard on "the benefits outweigh the risks". Let the individual decide that.

Especially if other solutions can work.

Moderna is stronger than Pfizer, yet the interval between first and second doses for both is the same: two weeks. That seems like all the more likelihood of system overload with Moderna.

I'd read three weeks? One source read four weeks for Moderna... I'm sure the appointment schedulers will know best, I'd hope...

The whole thing has become way out of hand. First it was if you don't get a vaccine you are selfish and socially irresponsible. Then unpatriotic. Now it's talk of contributing to genocide! It's far beyond ridiculous.

Agreed. The hyperbole has been outlandish.

One big problem has been when people quit wearing masks. There is still not enough known yet about the virus and it's mutations. People should have stuck with masks, vaccinated or not. It's no great hardship to wear one. People wear them regularly where there are air-quality problems.

Agreed. In most cases, there are not breathing problems or other issues. (Just as with most, there are no issues in taking the vaccine, and those with qualifying underlying conditions won't get it.)

Lest there be any misunderstandings here, I will say this: I don't disapprove of the door-to-door thing....if it is a 'make-it-more-available' intention. Just don't be pushy about it or accuse someone of being an asshole or worse if they decline. And bring unbiased information along with the vaccines so that people can make an informed choice, without being pressured.

Door to door is extreme. We don't even do that for milk and paper delivery anymore, so why for this?

For the record, do I agree with those who refuse vaccines because of conspiracy theories or just to be anarchists? Hell, no!

Some of their claims stem from issues, albeit at a superficial. "Experimental new drug!" still has the better part of a decade's research and they all act as if it's only been worked on for a handful of months where a bunch of mice died and other aspects removed from reasonable (or any!) context.

Actually, if I were in a position in which I was required to be out-and-about in some capacity for hours every day, I would likely take Moderna initially and then Pfizer two weeks later and hope that method worked out for the best.

There were articles from fairly reputable websites stating mixing different brands could make side effects more intense. Lego and other brands of similarly looking plastic bricks may not work together fully? I don't recall anything citing reduced efficacy, however...
 
Reminds me of the kid sister in the first Lego movie :D

The only decent Megabloks set was the USS Enterprise which I failed to get as it was so pricey.

I did have a semi trailer back in 2005 when I was in hospital that I made that was a neat set and a model of the USS Nimitz which was 1.6 meters long
 
There's an anti-vax restaurant in Huntington Beach that wants proof their customers are not vaccinated. How do you even do that? A picture of you with Tucker Carlson? Your Capitol attack arrest record?
 
There's an anti-vax restaurant in Huntington Beach that wants proof their customers are not vaccinated. How do you even do that? A picture of you with Tucker Carlson? Your Capitol attack arrest record?
That's just ridiculous. I hope the health inspectors really come down on every little violation this restaurant has.
 
There's an anti-vax restaurant in Huntington Beach that wants proof their customers are not vaccinated. How do you even do that? A picture of you with Tucker Carlson? Your Capitol attack arrest record?
This restaurant (generous term, it's pretty small) is right down the street from me. There's no way to enforce this, of course (they will kick you out for wearing masks, though), it's just flexing for the anti-vaxxers and telling them they're welcome to come there. Of course, I don't know why you'd want to go there even if you were vaccinated. You still wouldn't want your waitress Typhoid Mary to serve you the Bubonic Plate. This place is an incubator.

Ever since the pandemic I've begun to loathe every time I see my town trending on Google. It's never good news. Always a bunch of racists rioting, Trumpster rallies gone wild, or idiots protesting wearing masks / having to get vaccines, sometimes all together in one. There's a lot to love about living in Huntington Beach, but the pandemic has exposed a lot of the ugliness festering here too. I'm moving to Las Vegas, which is not an improvement but is all I can afford since I'm losing my house, but I'm not missing HB as much as I used to.

The heat difference is going to be a bummer, though. HB always has a cool breeze that keeps temps in the 70s or 80s for most of the year.
That's just ridiculous. I hope the health inspectors really come down on every little violation this restaurant has.
The state is threatening to revoke their liquor license over this, for being a "disorderly premises." The case is pending.
 
^ Wouldn't the concept itself be a giant health-code violation? Even if you ignore the fact that it's an anti-vaxxer haven, the people running the place don't seem keen to be following general health sanitation codes. If this were in Canada, you could bet this would be shut down quickly.
 
^ Wouldn't the concept itself be a giant health-code violation? Even if you ignore the fact that it's an anti-vaxxer haven, the people running the place don't seem keen to be following general health sanitation codes. If this were in Canada, you could bet this would be shut down quickly.
I think that normally, health codes for restaurants (in the US) are handled at the county level, and they have more to do with food safety based on inspection of conditions and operations in the food preparation areas.
As for Covid-specific safety measures for public settings and businesses, Huntington Beach is in Orange County, which currently does not have a mask mandate. The wording on the county website is that face coverings "are recommended for unvaccinated people" (but not required). Individual businesses can still require masks if they want to. Of course, there's nothing saying that businesses can prohibit masks.

Kor
 
I think that normally, health codes for restaurants (in the US) are handled at the county level, and they have more to do with food safety based on inspection of conditions and operations in the food preparation areas.
As for Covid-specific safety measures for public settings and businesses, Huntington Beach is in Orange County, which currently does not have a mask mandate. The wording on the county website is that face coverings "are recommended for unvaccinated people" (but not required). Individual businesses can still require masks if they want to. Of course, there's nothing saying that businesses can prohibit masks.

Kor

Any buisness which bans the use of face masks is one to avoid.
 
I think that normally, health codes for restaurants (in the US) are handled at the county level, and they have more to do with food safety based on inspection of conditions and operations in the food preparation areas.


Yeah, which is what I was heading at. I mean, the pandemic affects many aspects. If they're this lax at following measures and actively prohibiting masked people, what's to say that their food prep and hygiene is any better? It doesn't sound encouraging in the least. It sounds more like a place that has contempt for health and safety of its customers.
 
We got a notice at work this morning that starting Monday everyone has to wear a mask fully vaccinated or not and go back to social distancing; so the plexiglass screens we just took down and the rope barriers are going back up.
I started re-wearing a mask two weeks ago because I've been listening to NPR about the high transmissibility of the Delta variant and we've had a handful of employees out sick with a cold and I don't want to get sick before I go on vacation.
 
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