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Spoilers Continuation of 25th Century Trek?

Something interesting I noticed where Wil Wheaton's comments on The Ready Room this week.

He called Picard S3 as the 'sunset' for the 90s Trek timeline (including Voyager). The 'bookend' of 90s Trek.

I'm wondering if this is the company line behind the scenes.
I doubt it. Probably just speaking about the present, there's no official follow up announced.
 
Picard wasn't cancelled, Discovery was.
Except with the Star Trek: Star Fleet Academy series being set in the 32nd century (and it is based on th description); it's essentially a continuing of Star Trek Discovery with actors who now will cost less, (lowering the overall production cost.)

If Discovery was canceled because of low ratings (from all reports its still the most watched new Star Trek series - even still beating out SNW; and no, I myself AM NOT a Discovery 32nd century fan: I did enjoy its first two seasons - and I LOVE SNW - but I don't ignore facts) you'd think they'd also abandon the 32c Trek era entirely, but they aren't.
 
Except with the Star Trek: Star Fleet Academy series being set in the 32nd century (and it is based on th description); it's essentially a continuing of Star Trek Discovery with actors who now will cost less, (lowering the overall production cost.)

If Discovery was canceled because of low ratings (from all reports its still the most watched new Star Trek series - even still beating out SNW; and no, I myself AM NOT a Discovery 32nd century fan: I did enjoy its first two seasons - and I LOVE SNW - but I don't ignore facts) you'd think they'd also abandon the 32c Trek era entirely, but they aren't.

I never said Discovery was cancelled because if low ratings, but more likely because of costs. If the show had planned to end with season 5, they wouldn't need to do reshoots right now.
 
If there's going to be a 25th century show, it might involve Titan, Shaw and Seven. Assuming all three survive season 3 of Picard.

But I can totally see Jeri Ryan saying that it was fun revisiting Seven for three seasons of Picard and leaving it at that.
 
This is bad, looks like Kurtzman sidelined Matalas after he realized, how successful Picard season 3 has become…

Kurtzman never cares for the best Star Trek, only for his Star Trek
 
The other day Star Wars just displayed their updated timeline layout with 9 distinct eras. I'm thinking Star Trek should do something similar (not saying 9, I mean any amount).

As for 25th, I've always been an advocate for a late 25th century series, but I know I'm in the minority, and most people want early 25th. I'd definitely support that, as well.

I do think it's kind of interesting the media keeps declaring this as the "end" of the TNG era (which I already disagree with, it ended in 2002 or 2005), Matalas wants another show that will apparently directly follow this one. Unless it's simply a reference to these actors/characters.
 
I do think it's kind of interesting the media keeps declaring this as the "end" of the TNG era (which I already disagree with, it ended in 2002 or 2005), Matalas wants another show that will apparently directly follow this one. Unless it's simply a reference to these actors/characters.
Matalas wants to explore legacy characters. The "Where are they now" type of segment in the Trek future.

What will come of that is anyone's guess.
 
I'm not sure why that is such a bad idea from their perspective. Picard S3 has been far and away the most positively received of the new series. Surely this "legacy" show idea would be good from a cost cutting perspective rather than running a show for 5 seasons with increasing costs?
 
Surely this "legacy" show idea would be good from a cost cutting perspective rather than running a show for 5 seasons with increasing costs?
Except Legacy characters can be more expensive.

I know many might disagree with me, and that's fine, but personally the whole Legacy conversation pretty much says "Star Trek is a relic of the past." It doesn't want to move forward, and not only that but it is celebrated for when it stays in it's past. It's pretty much become the Expendables of science fiction, were all these actors from big movies come together and blow stuff up. Only, this is we come together and use our starships and people go "Hey, I know that ship!"

I feel like there is a middle ground somewhere but thus far the interest seems to be in line with Legacy. And that's a tenuous position for me.
 
Except Legacy characters can be more expensive.

I know many might disagree with me, and that's fine, but personally the whole Legacy conversation pretty much says "Star Trek is a relic of the past." It doesn't want to move forward, and not only that but it is celebrated for when it stays in it's past. It's pretty much become the Expendables of science fiction, were all these actors from big movies come together and blow stuff up. Only, this is we come together and use our starships and people go "Hey, I know that ship!"

I feel like there is a middle ground somewhere but thus far the interest seems to be in line with Legacy. And that's a tenuous position for me.
I just want to see unresolved issues explored and I think a lot of others do too, it is more than just "hey I know that thing". It is more "I want to see what they're up to and where they ended up". Give me nostalgia trips over red angel and whatever the fuck caused the burn.
 
I just want to see unresolved issues explored and I think a lot of others do too, it is more than just "hey I know that thing". It is more "I want to see what they're up to and where they ended up". Give me nostalgia trips over red angel and whatever the fuck caused the burn.
I hope you get what you want.

I am hard out on the nostalgia trips at this point. If that's all there is then I have had enough cake and frosting.
 
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I just want to see unresolved issues explored and I think a lot of others do too, it is more than just "hey I know that thing". It is more "I want to see what they're up to and where they ended up". Give me nostalgia trips over red angel and whatever the fuck caused the burn.

As I mentioned in the Vox thread, what you want is "To Boldly Go Where We Have Been Before". Which is fine, on occasion.

But what so many seem to want is pure nostalgia bait all the time. It's what Terry Matalas has basically promised with every mention of a continuation under him.

You can only milk nostalgia for so long before it becomes tiresome and meaningless. The franchise will become stagnated and eventually flounder out, again.

Paramount only has so much money to throw around, and even that seems to be dwindling. To devote such time, effort, and money towards projects that appeal to no one but Trekkies, is shortsighted, at best.

Star Trek isn't as popular as we'd all like to think. We need NEW fans if the franchise is to thrive. Nostalgia bait does nothing for people who are new or only mildly interested in the franchise.

I think Strange New Worlds has the perfect approach, and not just because of it's non-serialized format. It works for old fans and new fans alike. Yes, there is obvious nostalgia in the setting, ship, and some character, but with virtually every episode they brought something new to the franchise. They visited a new planet. Made a new discovery. Met a new species or greatly expanded on ones we knew little about.

In the end, in my opinion, Star Trek is about about exploring strange new worlds. Seeking out new life and new civilizations. And yes, Boldly going where no one has gone before.
 
I think it is cheap to say that we're going where we've been before and it is all nostalgia bait. They're new stories in familiar locations with familiar characters while introducing new characters who people enjoy, especially since they're introduced naturally. Discovery is completely nonsensical and it genuinely doesn't seem like anyone is watching it. Netflix didn't seem particularly bothered by it leaving at short notice internationally despite the amount of investment they put into the early seasons.

It's like saying the 2005 Doctor Who was nostalgia bait cause they used Daleks and Cybermen a lot, had the TARDIS yet it was wildly successful and drew in a new audience with this stuff. Starfleet Academy will end up being another failed attempt at drawing in a young audience, I'd put a bet on them not even having "Star Trek" in the title and it being a teen adventure show.
 
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