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Compressing Space Time into an Hour Glass

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We have the input x being a field of space traveling faster than the speed of light, passing through the function or the Big Bang that is similar to a black hole in that we don't know what is taking place inside of the it that then generates the result X +1 or the field of space passing through the Big Bang Function and then resulting in a bridge, +1 that creates other functions.

So what we have are fields of space, x the components of a Higg's Field with the ability to become a bridge prior to point of passing through the neck of the Big Bang or Creation Point or in this case the black box from the video above. An unknown process arranges the Higgs field components into a particle with a field that is then used to continuously interact with other particles such as the electron.

Therefore prior to the Big Bang, fields outside of our range to detect with our current technology, exist at FTL velocities thus explaining "space" being an infinite field itself as space exists in all directions at an infinite velocity at the same time. Space that is a field passing through a function, the bridge that allows the fields of space to interact with other fields of space at slower that light speed velocities that then create particles such as the Higgs Field that along with the Higgs particle creates bridges for other particles to continuously interact with each other at slower than FTL velocities. The function of the Big Bang being the "pea in the princesses bed" that causes her to be perturbed thus creating another field of energy instead of being a field of rest or an agitator field. The agitator field is thus situated between the fields of space and space time. Space unlike space-time does not interact with other particles prior to passing through the field of the Big Bang or a very small and finite field itself, but exponentially expands outwards at the velocity of faster than the speed of light until it interacts with the "Princesses Pea In The Bed" to create a Big Bang event.

Here is an image to better show what I posting.
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The input or x must be a field with mass as nothing without mass can exist as well as a field traveling faster than the speed of light.

The unknown function must be able to bridge FTL fields with other fields traveling at FTL speeds.

The output function are particles that have mass, travel slower than the speed of light and are able to create bridges between particles such as electrons with the unknown function and the field of or fields of space continuously that then creates mass and different atoms. The similar components involved before and after the Big Bang or the unknown function are the fields of space,x are present at both x and x + 1 or space occupying points both prior to the Big Bang and after the Big Bang. Therefore, space itself must have mass and must be traveling faster than the speed of light. Otherwise the field of space would be slow enough for us to measure and would have a definable edge.

The fields of space prior to the Big Bang must also have mass because if space didn't have mass then space-time would not be created at the neck of the Big Bang. The Big Bang is therefore a process that slows down fields of space by converting the fields of space that interact with the Big Bang to create fields that are within a measurable distance of time unlike the infinite aspect of velocity that the fields of space function at thus creating space-time or space fields that can be measured.


This theory must be true.

Lets use the Bible as a reference. "In the beginning God said Let there be light and the Earth and Heavens were created."

In order for God to exist and create anything, then God must have mass and function somewhere in the realm of Space prior to the Big Bang, expanding outwards at an infinite rate of velocity.

So how was our Universe created from space fields or God like the Bible states to be true? It can only be true if space fields function at faster than the speed of light like God supposedly does as well as in cases both must have mass in order to create a Big Bang as nothing can exist without mass.
 
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Well, I'll award +1 brownie point for mentioning a branch of mathematics even though the entire post is an incoherent ramble. By the way, photons are massless in the standard model.
 
Since this thread is apparently for gibberish - here's mine - it all came from reading an article explaining that vacuum energy may exist but, should be so plentiful that space/time would roll up into a tiny ball:

Space – a finite but, infinitely flexible fabric on which the entire universe we know is built. This fabric is effectively "0" dimensional until something is 'constructed' on it to give it dimension. It's tendency is to expand, so long as nothing can interfere with that expansion.

Vacuum Energy – finite but, vast in quantity, normally bound to the fabric of space causing space to “roll up into a ball”. This is naturally attracted to itself; and to the fabric of space. When bound to the fabric of space, it with either arrest expansion or cause contraction.

Quantum Energy – another state of Vacuum Energy when it is unbound from the fabric of space. This is effectively the smallest possible particle of all matter and energy. Particles would - in theory - acquire a charge and/or spin during the separation event. Not all would do so, however.

The basic concept is this – when the two (Space and Vacuum Energy) are fully bound together, they are inextricably drawn together into a near singularity. A full singularity is not actually possible as there is a limit as to how much pressure that the binding force can tolerate. Once that threshold has been breached, BOOM! The Big Bang…

All of the Vacuum Energy that was bound to the fabric of Space is instantly released. Space expands at insane speeds in all directions for about a femtosecond. At that point, some of the Vacuum Energy re-bonds with Space and slows that expansion.

This is not a smooth and even process, some regions will have less and some will have more Vacuum Energy. This lack of balance gives the universe its appearance of uneven expansion. Areas with lower VE density will expand more rapidly. Since that density may change over time, expansion may change in some areas as well.

It's important to understand that both states effect the fabric of space - warping it - thereby inducing gravity. The Vacuum Energy state is probably much stronger in this regard but, both produce the effect we know as gravity.

Yes, this part does probably kill Dark Energy and may even change things enough to do away with Dark Matter as well.

The remaining Vacuum Energy becomes Quantum Energy and begins condensing into Quarks, Bosons, and Leptons etc… As the process continues, we see the forming of the first generation of unstable stars and soon after, Novas releasing heavier elements and so on and so forth.

Essentially, we are not merely “Star Stuff” as Carl Sagan put it but, rather, Quantum Energy. The whole of the visible universe (which is limited by the volume of the fabric of Space that it is built on) is the result of the Quantum Energy that did not bond back into the fabric of Space right after the Big Bang.

As time (or rather, entropy) rolls on, all of the matter and energy we see will recollect into massive Black Holes (or Black Stars, again, no singularity) and decay away into Vacuum Energy – re-bonding with the fabric of Space. Once the last of it has returned, the universe finishes this cycle and returns to a small dot of Space/Vacuum Energy until it exceeds the pressure limit once again and BOOM! We start anew.

I have no idea how long this process would take in either the universe cycle or the dot cycle. Time itself would be meaningless in the dot cycle and probably doesn’t actually exist in either case.

I suspect that the process doesn’t always result in a stable universe since, there’s no guarantee that enough Vacuum Energy would become Quantum Energy and what that threshold is would remain to be determined by better minds than mine.

It’s quite possible that some universes would live longer lives than others and that may depend on how much Vacuum Energy bonds back to Space or not. I would expect that if too much reconnects with Space, that universe may never fully develop and may have an early Big Crunch as a result.

Since the volume of the fabric of Space would be finite, and nothing can exist outside of it, this means that multiple separate universes could exist – in theory infinite numbers – so long as their fabric bounds do not intersect. It’s unlikely that we (or anyone else) would ever be able to directly prove, or disprove this part since…well…you can’t go there and you can’t see it either.

(Trying to leave this universe would result in the craft - and you - being automatically deconstructed... Sounds like fun!)
 
Doesn't a region of space-time only contain a large amount of vacuum energy if you probe it closely? This is basically an expression of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. If there are no such small-scale interactions, an otherwise empty region of the space-time vacuum should usually exist at or near its zero-point energy state.

Not sure I'm correct...which is what happens if you think about this stuff without doing the mathematics. Even then, it's possible to go badly wrong.
 
If we input the variable of Pi fields of unabservable space, before the function in Lambda Calculus we have space expanding at the exponential of FTL that when Pi passes through the function we have Pi+1 or Pi expanding at less than FTL exponential or atoms that expand outwards at less than the speed of light.

In both cases Pi is present in an infinitly expanding field of space prior to the Big Bang that after the Big Bang the fields of Pi become smaller and compact still function at Pi but now have a mass that is visible, measurable and able to be weighed in time.
 
Asbo Zaprudder said:
Doesn't a region of space-time only contain a large amount of vacuum energy if you probe it closely? This is basically an expression of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. If there are no such small-scale interactions, an otherwise empty region of the space-time vacuum should usually exist at or near its zero-point energy state.

Not sure I'm correct...which is what happens if you think about this stuff without doing the mathematics. Even then, it's possible to go badly wrong.
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I'm not sure either. I don't think anyone actually is at this point since we really aren't in a good position to experiment.

This was just a philosophical thought experiment...

One thing though - if it was true - think about the fact that "no information would ever be lost" in this scenario. All of the information of this universe would tied to the fabric of space and vacuum energy - neither of which is ever lost or destroyed in any of this process... BOOM! Head exploded!
 
StarCruiser said:
I'm not sure either. I don't think anyone actually is at this point since we really aren't in a good position to experiment.
This was just a philosophical thought experiment...
One thing though - if it was true - think about the fact that "no information would ever be lost" in this scenario. All of the information of this universe would tied to the fabric of space and vacuum energy - neither of which is ever lost or destroyed in any of this process... BOOM! Head exploded!
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That's Unitarity, which Hawking thought he proved was conserved in a black hole but Penrose begs to differ.

Mmm, pie, drool...
 
Now that I have a little more time.

If we input the variable of Pi fields of un-observable space, before the function in Lambda Calculus we have space expanding at the exponential of FTL that when Pi passes through the function we have Pi+1 or Pi expanding at less than FTL exponential or atoms that expand outwards at less than the speed of light.

In both cases Pi is present in an infinity expanding field of space prior to the Big Bang that after the Big Bang the fields of Pi become smaller and compact still function at Pi but now have a mass that is visible, measurable and able to be weighed in time.

Labeling the function of Lambda Calculus as a process that we do not know but has a result of x + 1 or the original value changed by 1 when passing through the function, we can walk back or use call back on the x + 1 as an assumptive value of x based on what we know about the Universe to peel away what happened prior to the Big Bang

In this case 1 will be defined as the Higgs-Boson field and Particle with x representing space-time that the Higg's functions in.

In order for the function of the Big Bang to have taken place a field that has mass had to be present traveling at faster than the speed light thus allowing the field of space to occupy any and all points in space in an infinite moment. The FTL field expanding into infinity, calculated as Pi seeing as how Pi expands into infinity as well and has no end, then encountered another field that regardless of the velocity of the field of space borrowed the mass from the field of space along with the momentum of the field of space traveling at FTL and faster to create the function of the Big Bang.

Using a fast running river is a better example.

We have a fast running river, the field of space prior to the Big Bang, that is carrying all sorts of other fields with it that are also traveling faster than the speed of light which is X in Lambda Calculus. Next we have another field independent of the space field that has mass which we will call the grail function. The grail has its own mass and is also traveling at or above FTL speeds. If we scoop into the river with the grail and then out what we get inside of the grail is a swirling agitation of both fields combining particles together into what are Universe is.

The second field would be much smaller than the field of space obviously because if both fields were the exact same size and expanding outwards at the rate of infinity then our own Universe would seem to be exponentially infinite compared to its general size as it today.

Therefore the function of the Lambda Calculus would be a smaller field of space with mass traveling through space, where there are voids in the field of space itself allowing for the smaller field to pass without any interactions, encounters the x and results in x + 1 or a single Universe such as our own or maybe even a single galaxy is formed.

For numerous galaxies to be formed there would have to be numerous function strands present interacting with field x.

Since x is labeled as a Pi field traveling faster than the speed of light and expanding exponentially like Pi and cannot be measured to have an absolute end like Pi then the x+1 or our Universe is a Pi field comprised of fields from x traveling slower than the speed of light where x is measured with time, time being the measurable distance between particle interactions within a medium based on how the medium interacts with the particles.

The main problem now is determining from the particles that we know exist how they would have existed in a field state prior to the Big Bang where they would have been party of a carrier, such as the Gluon and Hadron, traveling faster than the speed of light in x as well as the particles traveling faster then the speed of light in a field as the function where their interactions resulted in the Big Bang that created particles that bridged other particles together in a slower than light speed medium.

The particle without mass that needs looked into is the Gluon seeing as how it is the most readily apparent particle that is in the shape of an hourglass.

A gluon (/ˈɡluːɒn/) is an elementary particle that acts as the exchange particle (or gauge boson) for the strong force between quarks. It is analogous to the exchange of photons in the electromagnetic force between two charged particles.[6] In layman's terms, they "glue" quarks together, forming hadrons such as protons and neutrons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluon

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There is no such thing as a pi field in the standard model. A pion consists of a quark-antiquark pair (one of uu, dd, ud, or du with overall electric charges 0, 0, +1, or -1 respectively). Each quark is an excitation of the up (u) or the down (d) quark field. The quark-antiquark pair are bonded by the strong force, mediated by gluons, which have their own gluon field.

Lambda calculus is a formal mathematical system for logic processing that can simulate a Turing machine. I don't see why one would choose to use it in preference to the usual mathematical tools that are applied to particle physics. One can certainly use it to implement symbolic algebra processing in the manner of software such as Macsyma (aka Maxima) or Mathematica. (IIRC Macsyma is written in LISP but Mathematica is written in a combination of C, C++, and Java.)
 
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As both field strands begin to interact in a swirling motion something interesting takes place. Field x traveling at FTL and having mass creates a torodial around the smaller field strand or strands that compresses the mass of the smaller field on itself while at the same time compressing the smaller field wave at the center of the torodial into matter. The slowly massing matter particles are now slowly binding to Einstein physics, then due to newly created electromagnetic charges furth up and away from the torodial of matter anti-matter is created that then travels through x strand and interacts with the compressed matter at the torodial creating the spark of the big bang.

This last part is based on how the females brain sends a signal to the cells in her kid container that sparks the process of developing the kid thing in her container that like thr Big Bang expands outwards into something much larger....and smellier....


Captain...sniff...sniff...I believe that is baby poop.
Data is this the first time that you changed a diaper?
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_mass

In theoretical physics, negative mass is matter whose mass is of opposite sign to the mass of normal matter, e.g. −1 kg.[1][2] Such matter would violate one or more energy conditions and show some strange properties, stemming from the ambiguity as to whether attraction should refer to force or the oppositely oriented acceleration for negative mass. It is used in certain speculative hypotheses, such as on the construction of traversable wormholes and the Alcubierre drive. Initially, the closest known real representative of such exotic matter is a region of negative pressure density produced by the Casimir effect.

Based on Einsteins theories of anything existing must have mass, therefore prior to the Big Bang the field strands of x could most likely have been part of the Casmir Effect.


In quantum field theory, the Casimir effect and the Casimir–Polder force are physical forces arising from a quantized field. They are named after the Dutch physicist Hendrik Casimir who predicted them in 1948.

The Casimir effect can be understood by the idea that the presence of conducting metals and dielectrics alters the vacuum expectation valueof the energy of the second quantized electromagnetic field.[1][2] Since the value of this energy depends on the shapes and positions of the conductors and dielectrics, the Casimir effect manifests itself as a force between such objects.

Any medium supporting oscillations has an analogue of the Casimir effect. For example, beads on a string[3][4] as well as plates submerged in noisy water[5] or gas[6] illustrate the Casimir force.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Casimir_plates.svg

Going back to the Lambda function we can assign the unknown function creating the Casmir effect as being metals whose components were present prior to the Big Bang but not formed as metal atoms until x+1 took place. But there would have been a point in the function of Lambda Calculus that when the very first atomic trait of a metal began to take shape, which would have been faster than the speed of light, the wavelengths of the interactions in the function of Lambda, possibly a field strand of dielectrics that altered the vacuum expectation from FTL to slower than light speed values. Such smaller values would have created smaller and more compact segments of the field strands passing through the function where the Higg's Boson was forming that would continuously bridge particles such as electrons.
 
The mass of these three particles is less than the mass of a neutron, so they each get some energy as well. So energy and matter are really the same thing. Completely interchangeable. ... So in a way, energy, matter, space and time are all aspects of the same thing.

If mass and energy are the same thing then the strands of space fields would be measurable in time as the particles which have mass would definitely have interactions that can be measured. If mass and energy are the same then the aspect of what space is on the outside of our Universe should not exist.

Strands of space fields must have mass and move faster than the speed of light and is not bound by Einstein physics. Otherwise as the Universe expands outwards the mass of our Universe would create new Big Bangs at the leading edge of the expansion. Therefore mass from our Universe must be different than the mass that surrounds our Universe in the void.

Since space is infinite and our mass came from space outside of our own Universe the two types of masses must be different, otherwise the mass of the strands of space fields would simply collapse our Universe back in on itself.

The question is what happens to light photons close to the edge of the Universe that travel into the void surrounding our Universe? When such a question is answered we will be able to determine exactly how the Universe began and we will be able to access such points to use the strands of space fields to travel to new Universes possibly or even at the speed of infinity.
 
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