# Compressing Space Time into an Hour Glass

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1. ### DrysonFleet CaptainFleet Captain

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Aboard the U.S.S. Clutterbuck NX- 710, Experimental Warp Class Starship.

Looking at some Entropy modules from Prof. Hawkins books I have a new premise for warp drive.

If Quantum gravity existed prior to the Big Bang and was responsible for causing atoms to collide releasing new forms of energy then Quantum gravity would be coupler between Einstein gravity and Quantum gravity.

If the process of coupling between Quantum Gravity and Einstein Gravity can be established and certain couplings between the two can be turned off then a ship could theoretically enter a Quantum Gravity loop around time where the ship would use the curve of Entropy to sling itself around entropy of space time without violating Einsteins gravity because such gravity would still exist putting a force against the ship as it travels through a tangent vector.

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https://www.quantamagazine.org/physicists-find-a-way-to-see-the-grin-of-quantum-gravity-20180306/

The proposed experiment will determine whether two objects — Bose’s group plans to use a pair of microdiamonds — can become quantum-mechanically entangled with each other through their mutual gravitational attraction. Entanglement is a quantum phenomenon in which particles become inseparably entwined, sharing a single physical description that specifies their possible combined states. (The coexistence of different possible states, called a “superposition,” is the hallmark of quantum systems.) For example, an entangled pair of particles might exist in a superposition in which there’s a 50 percent chance that the “spin” of particle A points upward and B’s points downward, and a 50 percent chance of the reverse. There’s no telling in advance which outcome you’ll get when you measure the particles’ spin directions, but you can be sure they’ll point opposite ways.

Let's suppose for a moment that Particle A and Particle B point in the same direction. Could particles spinning fast that no matter which direction they were facing there were always pointing towards each other?

Could that be the cause of extreme gravity resulting in a black hole?

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If two suns are relatively close to one another, approxiamtely 20 ly and are comparable in type, the gravity each would exert on the others space-time grid would result is possible tunnel like interactions.

If a way could be found to reduce the mass of particles in the tunnel then the pull on each sun would create a tunnel where mass is reduced allowing a ship to travel close too the speed of light.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bow_shocks_in_astrophysics

https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/detach.html

Bow shocks form the boundary between a magnetosphere and an ambient (or at least surrounding) magnetized medium. This occurs when the magnetic field of an astrophysical object interacts with the nearby flowing ambient plasma. For example, when the solar wind, flowing with a relative speed of order 400 km/s, encounters the magnetic field of Earth, a bow shape boundary forms. For Earth and other magnetized planets, it is the boundary at which the speed of the stellar wind abruptly drops as a result of its approach to the magnetopause. For stars, this boundary is typically the edge of the astrosphere, where the stellar wind meets the interstellar medium.[1]

For Earth and other magnetized planets, it is the boundary at which the speed of the stellar wind abruptly drops as a result of its approach to the magnetopause.

Based on what I have been reading about Bow Shock is that an amount of energy is released in the form of a Mach variable.

https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/detach.html

I'm not certain how much energy is released during bow shock but if we can generate ambient plasma and then introduce solar wind particles to create Bow Shock then the energy released would not be anywhere near 400 km/s but could be potentially a lot faster then what is currently achievable.

The interaction between the ambient plasma and particles should generate a gaseous thrust. `

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Such assertions require mathematics to back them up. Captain Beefheart couldn't play an instrument and he didn't know how to express his ideas in music theory, but he knew people who grokked his intuitive ideas.

However, I can't get a handle on your ideas based on the Physics that I know. You seem to make wild extrapolations that don't follow from the stated premises.

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If there can be quantum entanglement phones, and humans can ever digitize their consciousness...

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If bow shock exists in a finite egion and dissipates, then in an infinite region, such as quantum space or even deeper, then the bow shock effect might produce energy that would propel an object forward at close to ftl speeds.

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If the energetic release that is present during bow shock can be contained inside of a firing chamber and then controllably released then a much faster exhaust velocity can be achieved with normal chemical rockets in space.

Reducing the interior of the firing chamber to allow only quantum based gravitational interactions would allow the bow shock to expand rapidly. Once encountering normal gravity the expanding exhaust velocity should be reduced significantly.

Shut up if have never built a model rocket and flown one.

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The process of creating bow shock would be similar to how an ION engine works.

A grid with charged ambient plasma particles traveling across the grid would interact with a magnetic field creating the bow shock.

Since an energetic release is created as the two states of energy interact with each other, the release of energy could become an exhaust thrust potential.

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The very first musical instrument, the wind, did not require precise mathematical formulas.

The very first musical instrument played by a human did not require precise mathematical formulas either, kukle.

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https://www.nasa.gov/offices/oct/early_stage_innovation/niac/gilland_potential_ambient.html

The Potential for Ambient Plasma Wave Propulsion

James Gilland
Ohio Aerospace Institute

This concept addresses the fact that space exploration is costly, primarily due to our current need to bring everything with us from the Earth’s surface. Truly robust and affordable space exploration will require that we use all the available resources we can find in space. The plasma wave concept deals with two facts:
1. Many planets, and the Sun, possess an ambient environment of magnetic fields and plasmas
2. Plasmas with magnetic fields can support a variety of waves, which transmit energy and or pressure, like light or sound waves. Many of these waves are at radio frequencies (kHz to MHz), and can be generated using the appropriate antenna. "Appropriate" means the right size and shape.
Plasma waves are considered in fusion power systems, semiconductor manufacturing, and in some very theoretical electric propulsion thrusters, such as VASIMR, which still must carry its own propellant. In contrast, this concept simply uses an on-board power supply and antenna on a vehicle that operates in the existing plasma. The spacecraft beams plasma waves in one direction with the antenna, which would generate momentum that could propel the vehicle in the other direction without using any propellant on the space ship. Such a system could maneuver in the plasma environment for as long as its power supply lasted, without needing to be refueled. One particular wave to consider is the Alfven wave, which propagates in magnetized plasmas and has been observed occurring naturally in space.

(The PI used to call this idea "The Alfven Wave Surfer", but it's really an "Alfven Wave Swimmer", in that the spacecraft keeps wiggling the plasma behind it to get around, sort of like how a person might kick themselves through the water)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfvén_wave

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If the mass of particles can reduced by reversing the Higgs-Boson interaction that gives mass to particles through numerous interactions then the Ambient Plasma Drive should be able to propel a craft through a solar system at higher velocities than is possible with standard chemical rockets.

Since rockets need to carry their fuel the fuel reduces the volume of cargo that is carried. But with the Ambient Plasma Drive the fuel could be collected from any available plasma that is present within the ships direct line of travel.

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One problem with changing inertial mass by more than a small amount is that it can radically alter the physical and chemical properties of atoms. You might well kill the crew even if the spacecraft retains its integrity. Perhaps fortunately, we have no idea how to manipulate the Higgs field to that end. An alternative of using the Unruh effect is unlikely ever going to provide anything but a miniscule thrust.

Exploiting the interplanetary magnetic field, solar wind plasma, and planetary plasmaspheres to assist in propelling spacecraft is a feasible idea. I expect it will be tried sometime. Needs plenty of electrical power and extensive conducting tethers though. The density of the solar wind at 1AU from the Sun is only about 6 ions per cubic centimetre so there's not really a lot of ambient plasma to work with.

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https://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0503021.pdf

https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0503021

Two papers regarding the magnetohydrodynamic wave that the Alfven Wave is made up of. The good thing is that the process of magneto hydrodynamics is also present in the Quantum range of energy.

Alfven Wave Propagation in crystal Bismuth - https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/5392239

Alfvén wave propagation in single crystal bismuth has been studied as a function of magnetic field to 105 kilogauss for frequencies between 13 and 18 kMc/sec. Small deviations from a linear dependence of wave velocity on magnetic field are found and are interpreted as quantum oscillations in the mass density of carriers. Theory and experiment are compared for the magnetic field along a bisectrix axis and along a two-fold axis. Good agreement is found for the first case, but significant discrepancies exist for the magnetic field along a two-fold axis.

With Alfven waves being present as quantum oscillations, mass density carriers established within the Quantum state could be used to provide power to the Ambient Plasma Wave Propulsion system outside of a solar system where normal ambient plasma is less apparent allowing a ship to travel between solar systems without requiring large storage systems for on board engine fuel.

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18. ### DrysonFleet CaptainFleet Captain

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Now back to compressing space time into an hour glass.

The Kiss method.

Every object has numerous states of matter, solid, gas, liquid and plasma. Take Ice for example. In its solid form it is very difficult to punch through. In its liquid state you can't punch it and in a gaseous state it would evaporate too quickly, but you could still punch through it. But all three states have the same variable present. They have a rest state that went effected upon by the punch creates a focal point of energy distribution that causes energy contained within each state to rapidly expand outwards. The ice chunks rapidly expand outwards from the focal point of the hour glass, much the same with the liquid as well as the gaseous because an applied force has caused them to change direction.

The applied external force taking time and weight to change each state. In space the faster you go the more particles you will encounter or basically the reverse of breaking the ice chunk into pieces that expanding outwards. Instead of encountering small broken chunks the interaction would be similar to encountering a billion chunks of single ice cubes all at that combine into a single large ice cube thus creating too much mass that requires to much energy to overcome.

But when particles have their mass reduced to a state of not having any mass but are mass particles the same that they were prior to the Big Bang then what we have entered is actual space. Space where the amount of gravity present would be determined by the Higgs-Boson Wave that could instantly remove mass from particles it encounters while adding mass to particles as well.

Everything in the Universe can have its mass altered. A tree can be cut down and used to release its stored energy. An ice cube can be melted to release its stored energy, a mineral can be smelted to release its stored energy.

Therefore all particles in the Universe can have their mass altered to have mass as well as having no mass at all. Therefore all particles in the Universe have two states, mass and mass less.

So we have four states of matter that is then divided into two states of having mass and being mass less, a divisor of two 4 states spiraling around two states or the concept of a 24 hour time period on Earth.

Since our Sun exists in three states of matter, liquid, gas and plasma where the particles are the divided 2 we have a factor of 1.5 too overcome. The 1.5 = -4 or (1-5) and 6 or (1+5) = -4 and 6 as sums. Multiplying -4 and 6 together we achieve the sum of -24 or 24 = -2 x 4 = -8 and 2 x 4 = 8 that when -8 and 8 are multiplied we achieve a result of -64 or the original -24 when the -6 and 4 are multiplied. The negative and positive values of 24 goes into 64, 3 times with a remainder of 16 for the negative 24 value and 2 times with a remainder of 16 for the positive value. In both cases the 16 is present in the next set of values as 1.6 and 7 respectively.

If we take the - 8 and turn it into a positive number and then add 8 + 8 together we have the result of 8 + 8 = 16 or 1.6 or 7 ( 1+6 =7) If we replace the 1.5 with 1.6 then we have a new formula and result. 1.6 = -5 (1-6) and 7 or (1+6) Multiplying -5 and 7 together we achieve the sum of -35 or 35 = -3 x 5 =-15 (notice the original value of 1.5 that rolls back into the original set above?) and 3 x 5 = 15. Because we have a double sum result we have too apply the same formula in the first set to the 15. The 15 becomes the original 1.5.

The 1.5 = -4 or (1-5) and 6 or (1+5) = -4 and 6 as sums. Multiplying -4 and 6 together we achieve the sum of -24 or 24 = -2 x 4 = -8 and 2 x 4 = 8 that when -8 and 8 are multiplied we achieve a result of -64 or the original -24 when the -6 and 4 are multiplied. The negative and positive values of 24 goes into 64, 3 times with a remainder of 16 for the negative 24 value and 2 times with a remainder of 16 for the positive value. In both cases the 16 is present in the next set of values as 1.6 and 7 respectively.

So as you can see traveling through space while particles with mass are present when approaching the threshold of light speed is impossible to breach because the variables of time repeat themselves. No matter how much energy you dump into the thing you're not going anywhere because you are still at the initial point of entering the threshold of light speed because of the amount of mass encountered when initiating warp drive that must be overcome by the ship.

But, if you remove mass from the particles around the sun there is no longer any factor of time based on the states of matter along with their mass to overcome. This would be the focal point of compressing space time into the neck of the hour glass or the point in the Universe where mass doesn't exist at all or very few particles with mass. At the focal point space-time would still exist around the ship and would continue to move normally. When the ship added mass back to the particles around it the ship would have moved a comparable distance from the sun based on the solar systems spin which has an average speed of 515,000 mph (828,000 km/h). So in an hours times the ship, remaining motionless, would have traveled 515,000 miles without ever moving. The only problem with remaining motionless would be that you wouldn't have traveled in any desired direction.

But, if a small amount of impulse energy is used then the ship inside of the focal point could have moved a considerable distance of 1.030 million miles in the same hour.

Basically the ship is using two variables as thrust, the motion of the solar systems spin as the ship moves away from the solar system in a desired direction as well as the ships own propulsion system as it takes in Alfven Waves and converts them for use inside of the Ambient Plasma Wave Propulsion unit.

The two major drawbacks to this is system are figuring out how to reverse engineer a Higgs-Boson to remove mass from all particles in the direction of travel as well as maintaining structural integrity using the two bulbs of time that contains mass.

The two states of mass, removing and adding mass to particles is the major drawback of creating mass less space time.

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19. ### DrysonFleet CaptainFleet Captain

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A very good article from Space.com - https://www.space.com/33306-how-does-the-universe-expand-faster-than-light.html

At some point, at some obscene distance, the speed tips over the scales and exceeds the speed of light, all from the natural, regular expansion of space.

In order to better understand the idea that I am trying present, visual aids are always best.

1. The ship is traveling at normal velocities associated with an Apollo era command module traveling towards the moon.

2. As the ship increases velocity towards light speed it encounters more and atoms, more specifically metallic based atoms that add mass to the ship not physically but externally are encountered.

3. Travelling faster and faster the ship becomes entangled with even more metallic atoms as the ever expanding energy exchange between the ship and the metallic atoms increases exponentially thus adding more mass than the ship is able to over come with its own engines.

4. Much the same way that light cannot escape a black hole,the ship traveling close to the speed of light and faster will not be able to reach the speed of light as the velocity of at the speed of light that the ship is traveling has created its own black hole if you will. Not an actual black hole that consumes everything in its path but an energy consumption similar to a black hole that no matter how much energy you dump into the engines for thrust to try and travel faster, the closer to the speed of light that you travel causes more constriction on the ship. Much like an Anaconda constricts more and more as the prey struggles to get free. Once the prey has been crushed the Anaconda relaxes its constriction.

In this case once the ship starts to slow its velocity the energy transfer between the ship and metallic atoms lessens as the transfer rate and distance of energy between the ship and metallic atoms becomes less and fewer metallic atoms are present.

Its almost as if the energy transfer and distance of the energy transfer traveled is creating an event horizon that cannot be reached as the metallic atoms of the Universe are constricting the ship from all directions. An is opposite of the black hole's event horizon that cannot be escaped from no matter how much energy is dumped into the engines.

No matter how fast you travel towards light speed your mass increases based on the amount of thrust you are using that cannot overcome the mass applied from external metallic atom interactions.

No matter how fast you travel away from a black hole your mass increases based on the amount of metallic atoms present in the black hole applying an external field that cannot be overcome.

5. But if a reverse process of the Higgs-Boson field can be applied that renders the heaviest metallic atoms without mass at all, then the energy transfer and distance of energy transfer between metallic atoms is reduced allowing a ship to travel faster and closer to the speed of light using less fuel and exhaust thrust. Quantum gravity should however keep the atoms of the ship intact while traveling close to the speed of light and faster.

This idea is based on the proven theory that right after the Big Bang occurred that the expanding Universe traveled faster than the speed of light. It wasn't until metallic atoms gain mass that the expanding Universe slowed down considerably. So like I stated, if science can determine when the Higgs-Boson came into being after the Big Bang to add mass to other atoms then process of coupling the mass generation of the Higgs-Boson can be reversed engineered to strip mass away from metallic atoms to allow a ship to travel close to and past the speed of light.

Achieving light speed velocities requires an infinite power source. The only infinite power source available in the Universe is space itself. Space, not used as a power source, but as a medium of lessened metallic atoms that allows for light speed travel.

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I found the video that explains the entanglement.