^Don't see why not.
Coming July 2013: STAR TREK ENTERPRISE — RISE OF THE FEDERATION
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Not sure how I feel about the MACOS becoming Starfleet Security (I'm still sticking with a 'Starfleet Marine Corps' idea - I've always viewed Security as exclusively shipbound security guards, not front line troops) but otherwise, it's great.
Well, we've always been shown the same security personnel handling groundside and shipside matters, so that's what I aimed toward. And I wanted to have some tie back to elements of ENT, and to keep Kimura around as part of the crew.
I still just see the redshirts of TOS as security guards, nothing more. A security guard is not the same thing as a soldier or marine. Expecting the redshirts - or, in this time frame, the 'grayshirts' - to also be troops would be like taking a guard from a bank vault and sending him to Afghanistan.
Not really the same thing at all. They may be "just security," whatever that means, but they are still Starfleet Officers and trained soldiers. It would be like saying that just because a Naval Officer works primarily as a security officer that they are the equivalent to a bank guard, which is insulting and wrong.
^Eliyahu's right. I don't agree that it's an insult to say that someone isn't in the military, but it's certainly inaccurate to compare trained naval personnel specializing in security to civilians employed in the security profession.
Besides, we've got nearly 50 years of canon confirming that Starfleet's ship crews do handle all the Federation's military needs when they need to. The closest thing we've ever seen to a separate military force are the differently-uniformed ground troops in DS9's "Nor the Battle to the Strong," but their colors and pips matched those of Starfleet, suggesting they were just specialized uniforms for that particular assignment.
Besides, we've got nearly 50 years of canon confirming that Starfleet's ship crews do handle all the Federation's military needs when they need to. The closest thing we've ever seen to a separate military force are the differently-uniformed ground troops in DS9's "Nor the Battle to the Strong," but their colors and pips matched those of Starfleet, suggesting they were just specialized uniforms for that particular assignment.
Just saw the sketch Christopher and absolutely love it. Rise of the Federation continues to remain my most anticipated Trek book of the year, so I can't wait for next week.
Amazon Canada already has stock in...so looks like I'll be getting it early.
Haven't there been references to the Starfleet Marines in either screen productions or novels? I swear I've heard that term used in universe somewhere.
I just think that the phrase 'Starfleet Marine Corps' sounds better, that's all. It may not be applicable in today's military but within the context of Starfleet, I think the phrase sounds better. And it would fit with Kirk's comment that Starfleet is a combined service.
As for uniforms, my supposition is that the SFMC of the TOS era wears a black uniform. Same design we're familiar with, just in black. Don't you think that would look cool?
As for the uniforms, do you mean something along the lines of the undershirt from the Abramsverse? I could see that working myself.
Here it is Christopher, I hope you like it:
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Federation_Starfleet_ranks_(2160s)
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Federation_Starfleet_ranks_(2160s)
^I did describe the admiral's stripes in Chapter 1: "five alternating wide and narrow stripes." I assume that, as with the captain's stripes, the wide ones are on the outside, so it'd be wide, narrow, wide, narrow, wide.
Are there Commodores, Rear Admirals and Vice Admirals in Starfleet in this era, with combinations of wide and narrow stripes ?
^I didn't work it out in that much detail.
I'll leave it with you - I'm sure you'll have a few minutes spare sooner or later....
I agree with the others -- black is just too "sinister" a color for Starfleet. And it's not really a good camouflage color (though, admittedly, neither is red).
Black may be a bit sinister, but in this case, it probably SHOULD be. 
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