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Chris Nolan is prepping Batman 3 and will mentor a new Superman film

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Good point. I guess naive in the sense of 'sheltered chick from a perfect society' was what I was thinking, not naive in the ignorant sense.
 
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Kegg said:
Lapis Exilis said:
acting out a script that doesn't understand thing one about an Amazon warrior.
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It's Wonder Woman, that's pretty par for the course to the best of my knowledge.
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Sad, but true. She'll aways hold a special place in my childhood, but I think the character as she stands today is such a bizarre mishmash of history, accumulated comic book weirdness and 70 years of guys writing her so that she fluctuates between upstanding heroine, submissive twit and violent misanthrope - she just needs an overhaul. The feminist message as it exists in the books today is very First Wave, that is when it's not some weird backlash against feminism in which the Amazons are man-hating extremists, while actual feminism and the world at large has long since moved on. I'm glad a female character has found her way into a Holy Comic Book Trinity and all that, but it's increasingly difficult for her to function the way her creator wanted her to - as a role model of feminine values and equality.

Christopher said:
Lapis Exilis said:
I'm not discounting acting abilities - I think that'd be great. But I'm talking about realistic expectations of a production, not ideals. We're most likely to end up with a petite, big-breasted, pouty-mouthed actress who looks like she can't lift a sandwich, much less a tank, acting out a script that doesn't understand thing one about an Amazon warrior. Is that what I would like? No. But it's what we're probably going to get.
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Given the renewed, close control that DC Entertainment is taking over its various properties, with a single person (Geoff Johns) now being in charge of overseeing the creative development of DC properties across all media, I think it's unlikely that a movie about Wonder Woman or any other DC character would be that clueless.

Heck, if Warner Bros. had been that careless about the character before, we already would've gotten that dreadful WW movie you imagine. The fact that they've been unable to decide on the right approach suggests to me that they understand the importance of getting it right, that they know it's not enough to take a slapdash, shallow approach. I'm sure the last thing they want is another Catwoman.
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I appreciate your faith, but given the treatment of female superheroes on film from Storm to Elektra to Catwoman to Phoenix, forgive me if I don't share it. We'll see what they can come up with - if anything. Because, as a general rule, when they're not screwing up superheroines, they're ignoring them.

CaptainCanada said:
Any ideas for a Wonder Woman movie that involve basically excising her whole character history are DOA (particularly when it involves get rid of the only elements of her history that people might recognize). When you start doing that, you aren't actually writing a Wonder Woman movie anymore.
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That all gets into what are the essential elements of the character and I'm not sure any details of her origin are really that important. Possibly the choosing of the Amazonian champion, and that has some dramatic value, but the rest I think is pretty up for grabs. I just don't think the details of her story exist in the public consciousness in any way that demands honoring.

Christopher said:
I'm not sure I'd want to stress Diana's naivete that much. Part of her story is that she has lessons for our society, because she comes from a more peaceful and harmonious culture. Yes, she's a fish out of water in our culture, but "naive" implies that she's ignorant and needs to be set straight. It's more a Stranger in a Strange Land kind of story, the wise outsider visiting our world and being bemused by our primitiveness and folly. Maybe there should be an element of Klaatu (Rennie, of course, not Reeves) to her story.
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If they could pull that off, I would certainly find it more satisfying - but that has rarely been in evidence in any version of Wonder Woman, though it was hinted at fairly well in the 70s tv series. It runs a certain danger though - one is of a character to whom it is hard to relate because they are too superior, too much of a Mary Sue, in essence. The other is of having her tout a supposedly superior viewpoint which is trite. Witness the criticism Trek has taken over the years, particularly TNG, for its moralism. Could Hollywood really develop an "Amazonian philosophy" which wasn't just sophomoric political correctness?
 
Re: Chris Nolan is prepping Batman 3 and will mentor a new Superman fi

Batman on Film reports that location scouting may already be underway in Chicago for Batman 3.
 
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Captaindemotion said:
^ Nah, that's just Jackson Archer trying to pre-empt them.
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*rubs hands together* It begins... again.

Batman-On-Film also reports that Batman 3 might end up shooting before the end of the year. That's exciting. I can't wait to stalk yet another Nolan-directed Batman production! :D
 
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^ I heard they planned to take out an injunction against you this time ...
 
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Huge news from IESB if - and it's a big "if" - it's confirmed:

Now we’re privy to information, but will mostly opt to keep our mouths shut. You just can’t run with everything you hear. Our good pals from other movie-news sites will tell ya the same. Some info turns out to be legit, some crap and everything else in between. And there’s stuff like Christopher Nolan producing the Superman reboot while prepping to direct Batman 3. Yeah, we heard that. But thought it was too crazy to be true. Cut to: it being fact.

It’s with that in mind we thought we’d spill the beans on some recent unconfirmed (that is the key word here, boys and girls) rumors. Again it’s too crazy to be true. Or is it?
OK. So we know David Goyer and Jonah Nolan are writing The Man of Steel and Batman 3. We’re hearing outta Burbank a key reason behind Chris’ "Godfather" role is to help out li’l brother Jonah. "Why’s that?" you ask. Because latest rumblings peg him to sit in the director’s chair for the Superman reboot.

This, of course, would mark his directorial debut after working with his brother on three Batman films, The Prestige and not to mention his (ultimately un-credited) stint on Terminator: Salvation and writing Interstellar for Steven Spielberg. Jonah’s a solid writer, for sure. But making your first feature a no-doubt $200 million+ blockbuster tentpole with the intention of sequels down the line? Of course, this could just be a part of somebody’s wish list – maybe the studio or maybe "Godfather" Nolan.

How about Chris himself? Sure, he’s helming Batman 3. But most of us assumed he was going to call it a day after the third installment. The whispers in our ear (again unconfirmed!) say Chris will shepherd his Batman and the next cinematic Superman (and presumably Ryan Reynolds’ Green Lantern, The Flash and others) towards a Justice League movie. That he will direct after The Man of Steel and Batman 3 are released. We’re talking one big monopoly or more appropriately Nolanopoly.
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Jonah Nolan directing The Man of Steel? Chris Nolan working up to directing a JLA film!? Wowza if true!
 
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man these guys are like yin and yang, im all for it.
 
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I just can't imagine Christopher Nolan being interested in a JLA film, as producer, director or in any other capacity. And why would an inexperienced chap like Jonathan be allowed to direct a hugely expensive reboot of Superman? It boggles the mind.
 
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The thinking is that Chris Nolan is going to be very hands-on as producer, so he and his brother will essentially make the film together, even though Jonah will have the director credit.
 
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The IESB writer said, "You just can’t run with everything you hear." And yet they do, no matter how crazy it sounds.
 
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I don't see why Nolan would want his Batman in a JLA. I could see him making JLA with a new Batman, and pushing the Superman movie toward JLA, but not the Batman he has created.
 
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Bad Bishop said:
The IESB writer said, "You just can’t run with everything you hear." And yet they do, no matter how crazy it sounds.
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I dunno - Warners and DCE have obviously been lining things up behind the scenes in terms of their DC superhero movie strategy, and now things are starting to leak. It looks like it's true that Chris Nolan is going to produce a new Superman film, with David Goyer and Jonah Nolan writing it. If Warners has laid a plan whereby Jonah Nolan will direct The Man of Steel under his brother's guidance, and that these films will culminate in a JLA film directed by Chris Nolan that'll be mindblowing, but there is a logic to it.
 
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Aragorn said:
I don't see why Nolan would want his Batman in a JLA. I could see him making JLA with a new Batman, and pushing the Superman movie toward JLA, but not the Batman he has created.
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I think it's the latter. He's in charge of the whole kaboodle, but that doesn't mean it's all in one 'continuity'.
 
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I'm not sure what to think about this news if its true. Every movie the Nolans do, tends to have a certain kind of tone to it... Memento, Batman movies, Prestige, to a lesser extent Insomnia and the trailer for Inception. There's a very shared 'Nolan' tone/feel/aura to it... and it works great for those movies. It's not the right feel for Superman or JLA.

Nolan's a talented filmmaker, obviously, so maybe he's capable of doing something with a completely different feel. If his brother is doing Superman (I hope, with Christopher NOlan's supervision), maybe he can bring a different, breezy, upbeat, bright iconic feel to it.
 
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So long as Nolan directs Batman 3 all is right in the world. His participation and involvement in a new Superman film and a JLA film would be icing on the cake, but I do agree with others who say that the Nolan's style doesn't really mesh well with perhaps the outlandish, light-hearted, bright take that a character like Superman and a movie like the Justice League would require. We'll see, though. The Nolan's haven't disappointed me yet so I'm game for practically anything from them, and on the bright side seeing them continue to play in the superhero world could be quite fascinating.
 
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Christopher Nolan setting up a Justice League franchise that segues from his Batman films doesn't sit quite right with me. Basically, because the realism or naturalism (or whatever ism you want to use) of his Batman movies doesn't really jive that well with... honestly, most everything in the Justice League.

Things like 'Superman', the alien from another planet. I can see him giving us a more down to Earth Superman, but not a Superman that would fit with the Batman universe he's created. Still, if anyone can make that work, I guess it's him.

Yet I disgress.
JacksonArcher said:
Captaindemotion said:
^ Nah, that's just Jackson Archer trying to pre-empt them.
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*rubs hands together* It begins... again.
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It's hard to believe it's been so long since you were announcing every bit of arcane trivia and obscure development to come out of the TDK set.
 
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Kegg said:
It's hard to believe it's been so long since you were announcing every bit of arcane trivia and obscure development to come out of the TDK set.
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Hard to believe soon enough that will start all over again. :devil:
 
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