Chris Nolan is prepping Batman 3 and will mentor a new Superman film

[Admiral_Young]

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Christopher is correct in that the rights revert back to the Siegel estate next year I did a quick check on wikipedia and it said that if there was no MOVEMENT on a film the rights would revert in 2011. I'm not sure what that means.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

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it means no origin story! woohoo! its a win win situation.

 

[Dick Whitman]

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The question I have is how would the legal rights effect a potential sequel to this new film. Would this "Man of Steel" secure the rights for more films? Or is this a cynical money grab by Warner Bros? Trying to rush a film into production that they will get full profits from. Knowing later ones they will have to share.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

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The question I have is how would the legal rights effect a potential sequel to this new film. Would this "Man of Steel" secure the rights for more films? Or is this a cynical money grab by Warner Bros? Trying to rush a film into production that they will get full profits from. Knowing later ones they will have to share.

I believe it's the latter. Admiral Young, the rights revert to the families in 2013. If Warner Bros wants to make another film without having to pay the families out for the right to do so then it has to be in production by 2011. It doesn't have to be released in 2011, but it has to be in production by then.

Edit to add: Actually, I should be more precise than simply saying the rights revert to the families in 2013. In fact the rights to the early Superman material may revert to them in 2013 if they can successfully execute all of the termination provisions of the 1976 Copyright Act. It's not a done deal that they will do so since those provisions are complex and a new judge is going to be presiding over the case (the previous one retired) and it remains to be seen what stance he or she takes in the case.

 

[Christopher]

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But my point is that would entail moving the other film up, not moving the Superman film back. What I'm saying is that there's a time limit on getting the Superman movie into production, something that wouldn't be the case with other DC properties.

No, it wouldn't entail moving the other film up. Summer 2012 has been considered the most likely release window for the next Batman film for some time.

Look, you're misunderstanding what specific point I was referring to. Someone suggested the idea of postponing the Superman movie in favor of some other DC project -- not a Batman film, but something else that's still in the early development stage. My response to that suggestion was that the Superman film can't come any later than a certain time, so that it couldn't work the way that poster proposed. What you're talking about is something different.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

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Look, you're misunderstanding what specific point I was referring to. Someone suggested the idea of postponing the Superman movie in favor of some other DC project -- not a Batman film, but something else that's still in the early development stage. My response to that suggestion was that the Superman film can't come any later than a certain time, so that it couldn't work the way that poster proposed. What you're talking about is something different.

Oh, geez. It seems you've misunderstood and weren't following the conversation closely enough. We were talking about the shooting schedules of the next Batman and Superman films clashing, thereby presenting a problem for Chris Nolan. The prospect of either Batman or Superman being released in the summer of 2013 was raised and Bad Bishop asked if we'd be okay with that. I said, sure, if there were other DC films to keep us entertained in the meantime (and I referenced The Flash, which is actually further along in development than the Superman reboot).

You then replied to me and said that Superman can't be pushed back to summer 2013 because of the need to be in production by 2011, to which I explained that if it suited the studio's puposes they could plan things out for the Superman reboot to be released in 2013, but have it in production within 2011, which isn't much earlier than a big summer 2013 release would usually start principal photography. Is that clear enough?

 

[Admiral_Young]

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Okay thanks for clearing that up Out of My Vulcan Mind...it was wikipedia so i wasn't exactly sure what it meant. Think the important thing here is that it would seem that we're finally getting a new Superman film after another period of confusion and hesitation on the part of Warner Bros. I'm looking forward to it either way.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

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Think the important thing here is that it would seem that we're finally getting a new Superman film after another period of confusion and hesitation on the part of Warner Bros. I'm looking forward to it either way.

Absolutely. And if all the rumblings turn out to be correct, Warners may really get their act together and make DC superhero films at a much faster clip, perhaps putting the Superman reboot, the next Batman film, The Flash, and Wonder Woman into production in the next few years (along with Green Lantern, which is already moving ahead), leading up to a JLA film that brings them all together.

 

[Christopher]

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You then replied to me and said that Superman can't be pushed back to summer 2013 because of the need to be in production by 2011...

No, that is not what I said. I never specified summer 2013. I already told you three or four times what I actually said, so please don't put words in my mouth. All I said was that it couldn't be postponed past a certain point.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

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No, that is not what I said. I never specified summer 2013. I already told you three or four times what I actually said, so please don't put words in my mouth. All I said was that it couldn't be postponed past a certain point.

I wasn't putting words in your mouth. I was taking what you said at face value. I've already gone over these points ad nauseam, but here goes one more time: I said I wouldn't mind waiting for a Superman film until summer 2013 as long as there were other DC films in the meantime (and this was in the context of keeping the shooting schedules of Batman and Superman separate, not pushing Superman back in favor of another non-Batman DC film).

You replied and said they can't delay a Superman film beyond a certain point because of the rights issue, and that you thought that point was 2011. That carried a clear implication that you thought the movie couldn't be released as late as summer 2013. I explained that it could be in production in 2011, meeting the legal requirements (unless there are wrinkles in the legalities that I'm unaware of), and then released in summer 2013.

Where you got your wires crossed it seems is that you thought I was saying that Superman should be pushed back in favor of The Flash, while I was clearly talking about avoiding Batman and Superman shooting at the same time, which would perhaps put too much pressure on Chris Nolan. My reference to The Flash was tangential - merely a hope that they make some other DC films to keep us busy if the Nolans can't deliver both Batman and Superman in summer 2012.

 

[Bad Bishop]

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Think the important thing here is that it would seem that we're finally getting a new Superman film after another period of confusion and hesitation on the part of Warner Bros. I'm looking forward to it either way.

Absolutely. And if all the rumblings turn out to be correct, Warners may really get their act together and make DC superhero films at a much faster clip, perhaps putting the Superman reboot, the next Batman film, The Flash, and Wonder Woman into production in the next few years (along with Green Lantern, which is already moving ahead), leading up to a JLA film that brings them all together.

Warner Bros. could release more than one of the above films every summer, beginning in 2012. Or else save one of them (like The Flash, perhaps) for the Christmas schedule.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

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Warner Bros. could release more than one of the above films every summer, beginning in 2012. Or else save one of them (like The Flash, perhaps) for the Christmas schedule.

That's what I'm hoping for. If they start releasing two major DC superhero films each year, perhaps one in the summer and one at Christmas, and lead up to a JLA film around 2014 or 2015 that would be incredible.

 

[Bad Bishop]

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Would anyone care to post the entire superhero movie lineup for 2011, including the Marvel releases?

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

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Would anyone care to post the entire superhero movie lineup for 2011, including the Marvel releases?

May 6 - Thor
June 17 - Green Lantern
July 22 - The First Avenger: Captain America

 

[Admiral_Young]

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Next year is going to be an awesome year. One huge superhero film a month during next summer! I had read online a few weeks ago that DC ENT was planning to build their film franchises around a big budget live action JLA film so if these rumors prove to be true in the coming weeks when they finally make their announcements I for one will be a VERY happy comic book and film fan. As far as I'm concerned this has been a long time coming from DC and Warner so I'm pumped.

 

[Bad Bishop]

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Would anyone care to post the entire superhero movie lineup for 2011, including the Marvel releases?

May 6 - Thor
June 17 - Green Lantern
July 22 - The First Avenger: Captain America

Thanks. To me that's a very modest lineup. I would like Warner Bros. to get going with The Flash for December 2011, if possible. They may have just enough time to do this.

BTW, I do think The Flash is worthy of a summer release, but I figure the studio might want one of these movies for their Christmas schedule. That was the original plan for Green Lantern, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

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I would like Warner Bros. to get going with The Flash for December 2011, if possible. They may have just enough time to do this.

BTW, I do think The Flash is worthy of a summer release, but I figure the studio might want one of these movies for their Christmas schedule. That was the original plan for Green Lantern, if I'm not mistaken.

It'd be great if we got The Flash as a Christmas 2011 release. Warners will likely have an opening in their December schedule, too, since it looks like The Hobbit, Part 1 (being made by New Line, WB's sister studio that is now run directly out of WB) is going to be delayed to 2012. They'd have to move fast to have The Flash ready in time, but then that seems an appropriate way to make a Flash movie.

Warners is looking to DC properties to be a big part of the equation in filling the gaps that'll be left when the Harry Potter series ends. In 2001-2011 the series will have accounted for a major tentpole release in WB's schedule eight times. That's a lot of slots that'll open up for DC films moving forward.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

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I'm gonna ask this question in both this thread and the other thread, but do you guys think The Watchmen is an apt example of what a possible Nolen Bros/Goyer JLA movie would be like? but in that universe and maybe not overly stylized and violent in addition to being really adult themed. Because of the obvious toyline and other swag they have to sell with them.

 

[Caligula]

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I enjoyed Memento, Insomnia was well I guess I should watch it again since it's been a while, The Prestige was awesome, way better than the Ed Norton one, which name escapes me at the moment and I'm really stoked for Inception, so if all this turns out to be true, I'll be a happy camper.

The Ed Norton film, if it's the one I think you mean, is The Illusionist.

I rather liked Insomnia. You should definitely revisit that one sometime.

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

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ah yes, The Illusionist. That was it. Yeah Prestige way better.