Characters that are too perfect

[Miss Chicken]

I hate them. Most of them are sickly sweet do-gooders.

Examples I can think off

*Esther Summerson from Bleak House by Charles Dickens
*Kes from Voyager
* Kjartan from Laxdaela Saga (its been a while since I read it so it is possible I am remembering him wrongly)
* Hawk Solomon from Tommo and Hawk by Bryce Courtenay

I can probably think of more.

So are there any 'good' characters you hate?

Are there characters you think are too evil?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Melanie from GWTW.

I hated her as a kid but I kinda think she is noble now. Still

 

[HIjol]

Pulaski from TNG...what a mistake...calling Dāta "Dæta" was the last straw...and then fucking arguing with him about how he pronounces his own name....Jesus...

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

So you thought that she was perfect?

 

[Miss Chicken]

It has been a looooong time since I watch Gone with the Wind, and I only watched it the once, so I don't remember the Melanie character at all.

Pulaski wasn't anywhere near perfect, she was a grumpy old lady which is why she reminded me of my mother.

 

[sojourner]

The term is Mary Sue.

 

[HIjol]

So you thought that she was perfect?

No, the OP asked if there were any "good" characters we hated or any characters we thought were evil...I found Pulaski a mix of both...IMHO...

 

[HIjol]

It has been a looooong time since I watch Gone with the Wind, and I only watched it the once, so I don't remember the Melanie character at all.

Pulaski wasn't anywhere near perfect, she was a grumpy old lady which is why she reminded me of my mother.

No no...you asked:

Are there any "good" characters you hate.

Are there characters you think are too evil?

I found Pulaski a mix of both...

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

That's not what she was asking IMO, it's about the characters that are presented as "sickly sweet do gooders" in Miss Chicken's words. Good not meaning this character is interesting but rather this character is the sweet good one who is so sweet and good as to be unrealistic and you hate them for it.

It's more specific a question than what you realized I think.

 

[Miss Chicken]

Good not meaning this character is interesting but rather this character is the sweet good one who is so sweet and good as to be unrealistic and you hate them for it.

Yep, that is what I meant.

 

[HIjol]

That's not what she was asking IMO, it's about the characters that are presented as "sickly sweet do gooders" in Miss Chicken's words. Good not meaning this character is interesting but rather this character is the sweet good one who is so sweet and good as to be unrealistic and you hate them for it.

It's more specific a question than what you realized I think.

^^^Yep, that is what I meant.

My apologies, and thank you...in that case, I retract Pulaski...

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I think we were all laughing at Pulaski fitting that description

And I like Pulaski damn it.. because she is not a goody character.

 

[Miss Chicken]

I thought of a couple more characters that are too perfect for me to like

MacGyver
John-Boy Walton

 

[HIjol]

Kathy Duke...Patty's "twin sister" from "The Patty Duke Show" (really showing my age, but she was saccharin sweet...)

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

The whole point of John-Boy is you wanted to tawdry-fy him.

 

[rhubarbodendron]

hey, we finally found common ground, teacake! I like Pulaski because she is so grumpy and at the same time brilliant. And I loved how she covered for Worf when he had the Klingon measles.


I generally dislike all characters that are 100% good or 100% evil. It's so totally unrealistic. The world isn't black and white, it's all shades of everything. And so are people.
I'm a huge fan of the actor Peter Wingfield because he has the ability to play bad guys in a way that shows their good sides (example: Sir Richard Burton in "Riverworld") And he adds some dark sides to his good characters (example: Methos in the "Highlander" series). This makes all his characters so much more alife than the characters around them. It's a rare gift that only precious few actors have.

As for unbearable evildoers: on the top of my list are Praetor Shinzon or the Emperor from Star wars.
Unbearable gooddoers is tough because there are only few (propably because as characters they are so boring). Perhaps the hero from Dune (sorry, I forgot his name. Muad-dib he called himself later on), or pretty much every character Michael Landon played, from Charles Ingalls to this angel Jonathan Smith. Oh, and another comes to mind: what was that series called where a young woman can see ghosts and talks with the dead, solves their probs for them so that they can finally go to heaven? Horrible sickly-sweet stuff!

 

[Miss Chicken]

^^^ I think it was called Touched by an Angel and I agree it was vomit inducing.

The Michael Landon one was Highway to Heaven and just as sickening as TBAA.

 

[rhubarbodendron]

thank you All movies and series get fully translated over here, including the titles, which makes it very difficult to find out the original title.

 

[HIjol]

I have noticed that even some episode titles get translated into some really wild versions...

 

[Timewalker]

So are there any 'good' characters you hate?

Sturm Brightblade, from the Dragonlance novels. He's a poor, but noble Knight of Solamnia who lives by the Solamnic creed "My Honor Is My Life" ... even when it gets the whole group into a godawful lot of trouble.

Perhaps the hero from Dune (sorry, I forgot his name. Muad-dib he called himself later on), or pretty much every character Michael Landon played, from Charles Ingalls to this angel Jonathan Smith. Oh, and another comes to mind: what was that series called where a young woman can see ghosts and talks with the dead, solves their probs for them so that they can finally go to heaven? Horrible sickly-sweet stuff!

Paul Atreides/Paul-Muad'Dib certainly was no "goody two-shoes perfect" hero. He unleashed a jihad that resulted in billions of people being killed and 90 planets destroyed/sterilized. And in the Lynch movie, he wrecked a perfectly good floor at the end of the movie just to show off his destructive mental powers. And then he made it rain and killed all the sandworms ('cause David Lynch forgot that sandworms can't be in physical contact with water).

I agree that Michael Landon's later characters were sickeningly noble. Little Joe Cartwright was fun, though.