Chakotay and Seven

[Guy Gardener]

Despite treating him like a son for the first year and change?

How long till Icheb was fair game for the Captain?

His 18th birthday? 24th? 32nd?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Icheb applied for and was accepted into Starfleet Academy, I think he was a young adult not a kid like Wesley.

Icheb is a dork. However I would be very much in favor of Icheb hooking up with the male 7 of 9.

We NEED Borgback Mountain.

To show tolerance and stuff like that. Cuz we're the future.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I thought children were the future?

Remember Shattered?

The lad grows up well into a slab of hunky of beef,

I saw the adult Naomi on a scyfy original movie called "Area 51" last week. Wondering how real the Ozzy accent was?

I was quite amazed to see what Manu looks like these days.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0409430/

he has a chin. And hair on that chin.

Wesley tried to get into the Academy when he was 15 and failed, Riker was fourteen, and what with Yar being a refugee from a failed colony specializing in escaping the "rape-gangs" (actual dialog in TNG) I think she was 12 when she entered the academy (there was a Kobayashi maru fanfiction contest a decade back in the Fanfiction forum and everyones "ages" when they took the test was telling to how they were portrayed int he story telling.) That can't be right... My encyclopaedia says that she was 15. frakk.

If Kim can marry Toms kid, then that means that icheb and Naomi (who was ageing twice as fast as a human being) were only a few years away form being advanced upon by adults who thought that they were adults...

Or Harry Kim.

 

[GalaxyX]

If by "Axiom" you guys mean that guy inside Unimatrix Zero who had a romantic relationship with Seven, then I think it was pretty much given that they would never see each other again, as he was practically at the other side of the Galaxy (Beta quadrant?).

There really was no character on Voyager that could have paired off with Seven successfully. Maybe Tuvok, or Paris, but both already had their respective wives. I guess they could have done Paris/Seven, but then we would have missed practically the only good relationship Trek has ever done with Paris/B'elanna.

The Doctor would have been a horrid choice. It would have seemed so contrived. The best thing to do was not not have her in a relationship at all, but if they had to pick someone, Chakotay is better than nothing.

 

[Jetfire]

Seven Of Nine & Ensign Mulcahey...that dude was chill...and they already had a baby together with help from the Doc.

 

[Guy Gardener]

No, "nothing" is better than Chakotay.

Nothing would also have been better than Troi and Worf too.

The best relationship in Trek is Kieko and Miles.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

The best relationship on Trek is Ezri and Julian.

Chakotay serves pretty much the same purpose as holo-Chakotay. He's a practice dummy. Let 7 have a stress free, pleasant enough trial run man to help her get in shape for someone more challenging.

 

[HoneyBLilly]

^^^^^ teacake has a point. Chakotay won't hurt a fly, so Seven can use him for a safe relationship while she gets used to it all.


And the best Trek relationship, that would be Worf and Jadzia. And Kira and Odo.

Julian and Ezri was pretty good too.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Odo kind of grosses me out..

 

[froot]

Odo kind of grosses me out..

Poor Odo. It's not his fault he's a puddle

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Odo kind of grosses me out..

Poor Odo. It's not his fault he's a puddle

What can I say, I'm shallow.

But not as shallow as his bucket

 

[HoneyBLilly]

Odo kind of grosses me out..

Are you grossed out because he can turn into liquid?

Odo is one of my favorite characters. He's like Data and the Doctor. And his ending makes me cry, I held of the tears until then.

Oh, she who loves the MU stories, that would be you teacake, have you read Obsidian Order?

EDIT: that bucket joke,

 

[antiquityscion]

^^^^^ teacake has a point. Chakotay won't hurt a fly, so Seven can use him for a safe relationship while she gets used to it all.


And the best Trek relationship, that would be Worf and Jadzia. And Kira and Odo.

Julian and Ezri was pretty good too.

Yeah I agree.

I always felt sorry for Nurse Chapel. It was sad in an unrequited love kind of way. That and always getting the soup she made extra special for Mr Spock thrown at her

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Odo kind of grosses me out..

Are you grossed out because he can turn into liquid?

Odo is one of my favorite characters. He's like Data and the Doctor. And his ending makes me cry, I held of the tears until then.

My dislike of Odo is visceral. Or should I say, viscous.

Oh, she who loves the MU stories, that would be you teacake, have you read Obsidian Order?

EDIT: that bucket joke,

Is that a story in one of the anthologies?

 

[HoneyBLilly]

Odo kind of grosses me out..

Are you grossed out because he can turn into liquid?

Odo is one of my favorite characters. He's like Data and the Doctor. And his ending makes me cry, I held of the tears until then.

My dislike of Odo is visceral. Or should I say, viscous.

To each their own. Lol.

Oh, she who loves the MU stories, that would be you teacake, have you read Obsidian Order?

EDIT: that bucket joke,

Is that a story in one of the anthologies?

I'm not sure . . . . All I know is it's a MU story I'll run off and get the summary.

Peter David wrote it. I know that.

EDIT: It would help if I got the title right as well. Obsidian Alliances, that's what it's called.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Are you grossed out because he can turn into liquid?

Odo is one of my favorite characters. He's like Data and the Doctor. And his ending makes me cry, I held of the tears until then.

My dislike of Odo is visceral. Or should I say, viscous.

To each their own. Lol.

Oh, she who loves the MU stories, that would be you teacake, have you read Obsidian Order?

EDIT: that bucket joke,

Is that a story in one of the anthologies?

I'm not sure . . . . All I know is it's a MU story I'll run off and get the summary.

Peter David wrote it. I know that.

EDIT: It would help if I got the title right as well. Obsidian Alliances, that's what it's called.

:: raises head, looks at bookshelves ::

Oh yeah, I got it. That's convenient because I don't have to agonize over whether my PAD boycott means I miss out on the other stories in there.

 

[Guy Gardener]

So DS9 had many many many interesting relationships and Voyager had one, unless you count Seska and Kullah when she manipulated him or Seska and Chakotay when she raped him.

Sisko and Cassady was marvellous. She was a scummy Maquis terrorist and it didn't phase his love for her in the slightest, although at the time she returned from PRISON, he was stoned and maybe a sober Sisko wouldn't have been so embracing? Rom and Leeta was just adorable, though Leeta went thoguh both julian and a Changeling pretending to be Julian...

Julian and Ezri just seemed like a mulligan, he failed with Jadzia and in turn he settled for shagging her Ghost... I physically crawled inside myself when Julian said that Ezri had Jadzia's eyes. Maybe they grew but that was definitely a major component of the first dozen hours if you ignore the matter that I beleive they were prisoners of the Breen at the time.

There was a moment in the second episode of seaons 7 were I just went apeshit with delight because I thought that they were going to couple Jake and Ezri. Boy becomes a man, not that he wasn't muzzling (wonderful typo! I actually meant to say "nuzzling") dabo girls when he was a foot shorter.

Odo isn't a man. That's a non hetrosexual relationship even if it isn't a gay relationship either. I loved watching him struggle over the years to get his girl, and I loved watching him bawl about how he wasn't brave enough to Quark. It was a story with some substance.

 

[HoneyBLilly]

:: raises head, looks at bookshelves ::

Oh yeah, I got it. That's convenient because I don't have to agonize over whether my PAD boycott means I miss out on the other stories in there.

Is it any good?

I'm considering reading it since my public library has it, plus it's the MU which is one of my favorite alternate timelines, and Peter David did have some really good stuff before BD.

And the Julian/Ezri relationship did seem like Necrophilia at first. But I came to like it.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Rom and Leeta was just adorable,

They were completely wonderful. Leeta was a great recurring character.

 

[GalaxyX]

The only DS9 relationships I liked were:

1. Miles and Keiko. Pretty realistic of a typical marriage I would say. They are a carryover from TNG though.

2. Bashir and the autistic augmented girl, even if it in the end was really one sided (his feelings for her were real).

I think that's it.

Odo is a changeling. He does not have sex. He links up telepathically (or however they do it) with their own race. The mere notion that he can have attraction for solids is beyond stupid. The whole reason the Federation was saved is because Odo bagged Kira (she never really liked him that much either). Otherwise, Odo would have defected and betrayed the Alpha Quadrant.

Jadzia was a bitch!! I could not see a damn thing that Bashir was attracted to her for. Of course she falls for Worf, the jock football player character, and they get to beat each other up during sex Not to mention a "Beauty and the Beast" allusion happening here.

I could see Sisko and Cassidy together, but their acting never sold me out on their love. But I'd have to watch the series again to judge fairly as I pretty much tuned out to their story.

And Leeta/Rom. Well, another "Beauty and the Beast", except this time it's the "quirky beautiful chick falls in love with the ugly kid because of his personality". I do admit it did work somehow, but only because Leeta was supposed to be an airhead, and Rom was so friggin' likeable he could have been Jabba the Hut and you'd still like him. As played out in the series it worked well, but why couldn't DS9, calling itself a better Trek than Trek, do something actually out there, like having a handsome Starfleet or Bajoran man fall in love with an ugly alien girl, because of her personality? Show didn't have the balls to do it?