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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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Right, but now that Axanar Productions has no liabilities, they don't need 15k/month to exist. The investor group is on the hook for the rent, and is a for-profit company. They can do whatever they want with their studio. And if they find that they've made a bad investment, they can go tits up as well. they aren't a charity.

Of course, since the groups are one and the same, there's obviously overlapping money concerns, but when they separated them on paper, forgot that the needs of one don't carry to the other. Either just admitted to paying Axanar people a salary, or asked us to pay for the salary of for-profit company employees (of which we know nothing about who they are or what they do).

Seems like it's mixing the pots pretty badly. It's obvious what the INTENT is, but since they started trying to play the shell game, you can't go back and try this anymore, can you? Investment group just assumed the lease and paid out Axanar for all their improvements, so they should have cash on hand, plus no rent. It's the investment group that's in trouble, and sinking fast.
 
My god. I can't believe how far Alec Peters will go to continue this crap. I really hope C/P decide not to settle - and as W&S are using people like JJ Abrams and Justin Lin's personal comments about the lawsuit, if this goes to trial and C/P are able to receive a 'Damages' award; the show all this ridiculous crap like Johnathan Lane's 'Go Fund Me' for Axanar expenses.

I do wish crap like the above would finally trigger the California Attorney General to bring criminal changes because it's really getting ridiculous. Alec Peters seems to be at the point that he expects a full and free ride; or expects to be paid just for being Alec Peters.:barf:
 
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Sounds to me like he's just trying to raise cash to funnel into AP's pocket to pay for personal expenses until Doomsday hits.

If this is true, then Alec should do like every other capable and responsible adult and work for the damn money himself. I wouldn't be surprised if Lane gets a call from Ranahan to cease and desist fairly soon.
 
My god. I can't believe how far Alec Peters will go to continue this crap. I really hope C/P decide not to settle

A settlement doesn't mean Peters gets something. It's not necessarily a compromise where CBS gets something and Peters gets something.

The settlement discussions could be trying negotiate how much Peters pays CBS.

If CBS/Paramount get what they want over the course of settlement talks, there's no gain in going to court. It's money down the drain. Yes, sure, we all want to see Peters publicly humiliated, but, it's not our money and time being spent. I would be surprised if CBS/Paramount don't get everything they want in the settlement.
 
A settlement doesn't mean Peters gets something. It's not necessarily a compromise where CBS gets something and Peters gets something.

The settlement discussions could be trying negotiate how much Peters pays CBS.

If CBS/Paramount get what they want over the course of settlement talks, there's no gain in going to court. It's money down the drain. Yes, sure, we all want to see Peters publicly humiliated, but, it's not our money and time being spent. I would be surprised if CBS/Paramount don't get everything they want in the settlement.
Oh, I'm well aware of what a court settlement might entail. That's why I hope they don't settle because at this point Alec peters deserves NOTHING - and shouldn't walk away with as much as a %$#@! patch from this clusterf**k.
 
Axanar: The Next Scammeration daringly said:
But we're so close to the finish line! If we can just keep the lights on for a few more months, this case can play out in court and we'll all know the conclusion...good or bad.

So, I just have to ask...

Does Lane really think that the lawsuit will go away just because Peters is broke?
 
Oh, I'm well aware of what a court settlement might entail. That's why I hope they don't settle because at this point Alec peters deserves NOTHING - and shouldn't walk away with as much as a %$#@! patch from this clusterf**k.

Maybe I'm not making myself clear.
A settlement isn't necessarily a compromise. Even if they settle, he might not be walking away with anything.
The settlement talks could literally be a discussion of does he pay 300,000 dollars or 150,000 dollars.
Besides, going to court, there is always a chance that Peters COULD walk away with something.
 
According to Mr. Lane, who is apparently a Biblical scholar in addition to an Axanar supporter and truth-telling blogger:
This is a David and Goliath story. The studios' strategy is to intimidate and make things too expensive for a fan to outlast the seige.
I have a few issues with this analogy:
1. Alec Peters is not the divinely anointed King of Israel.
2. There is no archaeological or Biblical evidence to suggest the Philistines were particularly strict about enforcing their copyrights.
3. The David vs. Goliath battle was not precipitated by a "siege." The Israelite and Philistine armies were lined up on either side of a valley. And as far as I can tell, the Israelite army was not working "pro bono."
4. David's father asked him to go the battlefront and bring his brothers "parched corn and these ten loaves." There is no mention of sushi.
5. After slaying Goliath, David and the Israelites raided and "spoiled" the Philistines' camp. In other words, the donors got their perks.
 
Okay.... so confuse me a minute while I try to follow this:
^^^So, yeah, has not the we'llnevertell investor group reimbursed the full amount of the build-out? Therefore by de facto the new crowdfund is to cover the rent for the now for-profit 'and entirely separate' investor group?

..to cover the expenses of keeping the new for-profit entirely separate investor group industry going until the defendant gets out from under the lawsuit.

Which does not compute to me. The we'llnevertell investor group has reimbursed all build-out monies to the production. The production's funds are publicly stated to be safe in an escrow account. The production company (now existing only on paper) in litigation now has no rent or expenses to pay because as far as the physical studio is concerned.... it now belongs to the for-profit business group. Right?

The new for-profit production company is totally free to commence its for-profit productions isn't it? Isn't it doing so?

So the new crowdfund is for paying for the new for-profit production company's rent & expenses? Until the completely-unrelated-or-attached-to-the-new-for-profit-company..... person & production company in litigation's case comes to conclusion?



I am finding no way to reconcile:
"Whatever moneys are collected here (after fees to GoFundMe) will be donated to AXANAR PRODUCTIONS. Period. No money spent on manufacturing or mailing out perks. Just our money going directly, dollar for hopeful dollar, into keeping the studio open long enough for this case to reach a verdict."
with:
-Why does the new for-profit studio 'need' help in keeping It's studio open when it can be making all kinds of money by itself with no restrictions?
-Why is Mr. Lane saying Axanar Productions needs to keep the studio open long enough for the case to reach a verdict when that studio does not belong to Axanar Productions anymore.

Has Axanar Productions been reimbursed the $250,000 build-out or not?
Is the $250,000 all that's left of the ST crowdfunded money or not?
Is the entire amount left from the ST crowdfunded money along with the $250,000 re-imbursed build-out sitting in an escrow account or not?
Does the new for-profit investor company now fully own the lease and physical sets previously held by Axanar Productions or not?
There's no direct evidence that the asset transfer to the investor group ever happened, so you shouldn't assume that it did. The whereabouts of at least half a million dollars Axanar had at the beginning of the year has been pretty well obfuscated between the rent, utilities and salaries, the rumors of money put in escrow, and so forth.
 
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Just for the record, Rand is now officially a recovering Axaholic who has fully renounced his former overlord. He says that he regularly received instruction from Alec on who to attack and what to say, even being provided with the text to post with no evidence whatsoever of its veracity beyond Alec's word. Hmmm...
I have myself been considering a possible connection between the Rand of the FB post to the Rand of the FFF posts. And there it is.

I'm thinking this must be a recent recovery? Or possibly I have just missed it being talked about on this thread? To me this is pretty serious information; this regularly receiving instructions 'from' the defendant on who to attack, what to say, text to post.

Wait. Is Rand divulging that actual text was given to him to post as his own? Do you have any links to where I can read him talking about this? (If it is FB then I have no access if no-one is posting screenshots here :lol:) I am interested in if the alleged instructions were texted/PMd/emailed/etc., thereby leaving a documentable trail. And/Or maybe direct voice to voice in telephone calls/skype/in person/etc. so Rand knew he was talking to the defendant personally. Or perhaps someone from the inner group passing the instructions to him.

Fascinating. Terribly disturbing, but Fascinating.
 
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