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News Captain Pike Has Been Cast

Much like Supergirl added Superman as a supporting character, this show simply can't not show Spock. It has to happen some time, they're too deeply entrenched in the mythology - Burnham being his step-sister after all!

And this is the perfect timing for it, really: They don't have to cast their entire main cast. They only have to find one(!) extremely good fit. Besides: What would be the point of it anyway, introducing the Enterprise and Cpt. Pike, and then NOT also showing Spock? At a time he has to be there?
 
Whereas I think that a CGI Nimoy with a voice actor that sounds like him would be fantastic.....

Not with the quality of DSC’s CG.
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"Fascinating."
 
I have zero expectations of seeing Spock on DSC. I actually think it's batshit crazy to expect that we will. You all should right-set that expectation right now.

Unless of course, as usual, you're just LOOKING for something to be enraged by.

Despite what some people want to believe, Berg and Harberts have flat-out said that people shouldn't be expecting to see Spock in DSC, but, as is par for the course in this day and age, facts don't matter in this situation and people would rather set themselves up for disappointment and disillusionment.
 
Despite what some people want to believe, Berg and Harberts have flat-out said that people shouldn't be expecting to see Spock in DSC, but, as is par for the course in this day and age, facts don't matter in this situation and people would rather set themselves up for disappointment and disillusionment.

I'll even raise you on that one. I think people are specifically looking for a reason to be disappointed and disillusioned....
 
I'll even raise you on that one. I think people are specifically looking for a reason to be disappointed and disillusioned....

As much as I'd like to disagree with you, you're most likely right.

To pull in an example from another franchise, people stubbornly refused to accept the reality that Rey wasn't anyone special (even though the people involved with the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy had been "priming that pump" for close to two years), thus giving them a platform for manufactured outrage - and even more stubborn denial - when it turned out that what the creators had been trying to communicate to them for two years turned out to be 100% true.
 
If Pike beams over to Discovery and all the action happens there, then that could easily be #NoSpock.

Before the Pike casting announcement, I was fully prepared for the idea (and quite ok with) that S2 would open with

"Acting Captain's Log...after providing assistance to the USS Enterprise, we are back on-course for Vulcan."

So...anything more than that is simply icing on the cake as far as this fan is concerned.
 
Before the Pike casting announcement, I was fully prepared for the idea (and quite ok with) that S2 would open with

"Acting Captain's Log...after providing assistance to the USS Enterprise, we are back on-course for Vulcan."

So...anything more than that is simply icing on the cake as far as this fan is concerned.

I would've thought that would've been cowardly. I hope they dive all the way in. "Go big or go home."
 
As much as I'd like to disagree with you, you're most likely right.

To pull in an example from another franchise, people stubbornly refused to accept the reality that Rey wasn't anyone special (even though the people involved with the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy had been "priming that pump" for close to two years), thus giving them a platform for manufactured outrage - and even more stubborn denial - when it turned out that what the creators had been trying to communicate to them for two years turned out to be 100% true.

Heck, at the risk of derailing the conversation, TFA told us that Luke had gone into seclusion after everything went to hell with Ben, and that he clearly did not want to be found. Then TLJ comes along and ,lo and behold, Luke is an old, world-weary recluse who doesn't want to be found . . . and people were shocked by this?

That was exactly what I was expecting, given what was established in the previous movie. Of course he was not happy to see Rey and threw his light-saber away. Did people really think he was just going thank Rey for his light-saber, jump back in his ship, and go charging off to save the day? That's not what TFA promised at all.
 
I have zero expectations of seeing Spock on DSC. I actually think it's batshit crazy to expect that we will. You all should right-set that expectation right now.

Unless of course, as usual, you're just LOOKING for something to be enraged by.

Producers went out of their way to to make Burnham Spock's adopted sister. They could have made her raised by a random Vulcan family, it wouldn't have changed her character one bit. But they wanted Spock, Sarek and other TOS characters in the show specifically to tie STD into TOS. We have seen "Klingons", "D7". We have now seen the "Enterprise", and we will see "Pike" (double quotes are quiet intentional). At this point if we do NOT see Spock, then wtf are producers doing setting up the Universe around Spock without actually showing him? They'll be crucified if they don't show Spock at this point. And yes, they'll be crucified if they do, and it's not up-to expectations of the fan base.
So yeah, TPTB run Star Trek in such a way that they cannot please everyone. They put themselves into that corner, there was no reason for them to do it in such a way.
 
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Pike is in his 40s at this point. Maybe around 42 by STD S2.

Bruce Greenwood looked like this, at a time when Christopher Pike should have been 39!:

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Anson looked around Hunter's age in Inhumans;

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Could pass for early 40s.


And sadly, this is what Jeffrey Hunter looked like by 1969, the year Star Trek was cancelled, and the year he died;

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Only a few years after The Cage was filmed :/
You bet I'm tired. You bet.
 
Producers went out of their way to to make Burnham Spock's half-sister. They could have made her raised by a random Vulcan family, it wouldn't have changed her character one bit. But they wanted Spock, Sarek and other TOS characters in the show specifically to tie STD into TOS. We have seen "Klingons", "D7". We have now seen the "Enterprise", and we will see "Pike" (double quotes are quiet intentional). At this point if we do NOT see Spock, then wtf are producers doing setting up the Universe around Spock without actually showing him? They'll be crucified if they don't show Spock at this point. And yes, they'll be crucified if they do, and it's not up-to expectations of the fan base.
So yeah, TPTB run Star Trek in such a way that they cannot please everyone. They put themselves into that corner, there was no reason for them to do it in such a way.

Everything you just said here is wrong.
 
Producers went out of their way to to make Burnham Spock's half-sister. They could have made her raised by a random Vulcan family, it wouldn't have changed her character one bit. But they wanted Spock, Sarek and other TOS characters in the show specifically to tie STD into TOS. We have seen "Klingons", "D7". We have now seen the "Enterprise", and we will see "Pike" (double quotes are quiet intentional). At this point if we do NOT see Spock, then wtf are producers doing setting up the Universe around Spock without actually showing him? They'll be crucified if they don't show Spock at this point. And yes, they'll be crucified if they do, and it's not up-to expectations of the fan base.
So yeah, TPTB run Star Trek in such a way that they cannot please everyone. They put themselves into that corner, there was no reason for them to do it in such a way.

if you think that any product produced in any way with any particular approach would NOT have resulted in the same "cannot please everyone" effect...you've been under a Horta since 1979.

It's just part of the drill.

The kind of shit that makes you crazy I could care less about. I just happen to be lucky in that way. But there's probably other shit they could have done that would have made you drooling with happiness and glee that would have pissed me off.

Such is life. I'd rather have something than nothing.

Too bad others don't feel the same way.
 
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