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News Captain Pike Has Been Cast

Anson Mount had the charisma of a wet loaf of bread in Marvel's "Inhumans". His acting-through-silent-face-expression was really cringeworthy. I haven't seen him in anything else. I hope that was just the general suck-ness of "Inhumans" and NOT exemplary of is skills. I hope he can act a lot better when he's actually able to use his mouth.

Does anyone has a clip of a him acting in a show/movie he's been in before? I really don't know him from anything else.

His face is absolutely fuckin' amazing for Pike though... This guy was created from the same mold as Jeffrey Hunter!
Now let's hope they give him a mustard colored uniform...
 
Mount was great in Inhumans. That cast was criminally wasted. They all made the most of the crap they were given; they were the best part of the show. Looking forward to Christopher "Black Bolt" Pike.
 
And if they show the bridge of the Enterprise, don't bet that it will look like TOS either.

Kurtzman said if they make the Enterprise bridge it would be based on the original bridge but updated to the DSC aesthetic.

Interesting. If they show Pike in the exact same uniform he wore in The Cage, I will streak down my street.

They’ll probably use the TOS uniforms as the inspiration since they’re more iconic then the Cage uniforms. More people would recognize them.

It wouldn’t be anyway. It would look more like the Cage era bridge.
The novel stated they wore the correct uniforms so who knows. As long as it’s not those godawful STD ones.

The novel isn’t canon.
 
Maybe Tobin Dax is crewmember for all we know. I think that was the host who was a Starfleet pilot during this time period

No, you're thinking of Torias. He was the first Dax host to join Starfleet. But that won't happen for a few decades yet.

IIRC, Audrid is the current Dax during the time frame of DSC.
 
The 23rd century Dax hosts are, I believe, in chronological order:

1. Emony
2. Audrid
3. Torias
4. Curzon
 
Audrid was the ballerina, right? If she meet McCoy in medical school would she still be alive because McCoy can't possibly still be in medical school can he at this point? Of course lots of my opinion on Torias's time in starfleet I admit comes from a comic book I once read that showed him wearing the old TOS style uniforms.

Jason
 
That's about the actors not the characters. On paper the characters were the same. They didn't reinvent the Captain character for the second pilot, they just recast.

Pike was the same JFK type. We've no idea what "Pike" would be like. We only saw him in one episode. Though, I think there was some humor in him. You yourself mentioned a humorous exchange. We've no idea how "closed off" he was. Again, we only saw him in one episode. If they had retained Hunter and kept the name "Pike", Pike would be spouting Kirk's lines in subsequent episodes, humor included.

Pike in the Cage is the same age as Kirk and just as "green". Kirk is often plagued by wrong decisions and the weight of command. It's part of the character of the Captain role, be it named April, Pike or Kirk. Defining Pike by the Cage is foolish. I suggest you read the description of the captain character in TMOST on page 28. If you read the bio for Kirk on page 215 you'll find it's pretty much the same.


Nope.

When FIREFLY got a second pilot, one of the points Fox made to Joss Whedon was to make the character of Mal more jovial and less sullen. I wonder if NBC would have done that if the Hunter lead Trek show got accepted.

Either way, I don't really take Pike's portrayal in "The Cage" to be how he would have been shown in the following episodes. He would have likely been written much looser, but played in Hunter's own unique way rather than how we saw Shatner take the role.

Here's an interesting alternate universe: One where Shatner was actually cast as Pike for "The Cage". How different would that have actually been, and would it have been picked up?
 
That's about the actors not the characters. On paper the characters were the same. They didn't reinvent the Captain character for the second pilot, they just recast.

Pike was the same JFK type. We've no idea what "Pike" would be like. We only saw him in one episode. Though, I think there was some humor in him. You yourself mentioned a humorous exchange. We've no idea how "closed off" he was. Again, we only saw him in one episode. If they had retained Hunter and kept the name "Pike", Pike would be spouting Kirk's lines in subsequent episodes, humor included.

Pike in the Cage is the same age as Kirk and just as "green". Kirk is often plagued by wrong decisions and the weight of command. It's part of the character of the Captain role, be it named April, Pike or Kirk. Defining Pike by the Cage is foolish. I suggest you read the description of the captain character in TMOST on page 28. If you read the bio for Kirk on page 215 you'll find it's pretty much the same.

Nope.

Problem is, you are speculating like crazy.

I'm going by his actual characterization in the episode they gave us.

Transitioning the Jeff Hunter version of Pike to the Shatner version of Kirk would have been jarring. Nimoy knew the performances were VASTLY different between the two men, and performances have a strong influence on the development and definition of who the character is.

Nimoy knows what he's talking about.

Shat's acting style definitely had a HUGE influence on who Kirk became.


You really need to rewatch the exchange between Pike and Boyce. Pike definitely wasn't coming from a place of being inexperienced. He was literally 'tired' of the burdens of command and worn-out. He was written, directed and performed in a way to convey that he had a lot of baggage and past experiences as a commanding officer that have now burned him out;

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Pike is a great character, but hardly the shoulder-slapping grown frat boy with a constant smile and glint in his eye that Kirk was during his five-year mission on TOS. He was a man with a darker and more serious emotional edge that came through very well in Jeffrey Hunter's one solitary appearance as the character. Pike had regrets and a stony, steely-eyed intensity that Kirk didn't.


Exactly.
 
Had no idea who that is, after a google still none the wiser. I would've thought that Matt Bomer was a far better likeness for Pike.

Disagreed. Anson Mount is about the closest dead ringer for the Jeff Hunter Pike as we can get.

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Bomer comes off too effeminate and youthful. He may have been a better fit for a Kirk type than the stern and tortured Pike.
 
Anson Mount had the charisma of a wet loaf of bread in Marvel's "Inhumans". His acting-through-silent-face-expression was really cringeworthy. I haven't seen him in anything else. I hope that was just the general suck-ness of "Inhumans" and NOT exemplary of is skills. I hope he can act a lot better when he's actually able to use his mouth.

Does anyone has a clip of a him acting in a show/movie he's been in before? I really don't know him from anything else.

His face is absolutely fuckin' amazing for Pike though... This guy was created from the same mold as Jeffrey Hunter!
Now let's hope they give him a mustard colored uniform...
Hell on Wheels was his watershed series. His default state is not unlike what you described - quite stoic and reserved (VERY Cage Pike, actually), but he did have an opportunity to show his range in that show. I found him to be an excellent actor and perfectly cast for the role. Additionally, Wheels had Colm Meaney, which was probably his best role since O'Brien. Great series overall, IMO.

So if there is any suckitude involved, I'm presently inclined to blame Inhumans over Mount, without any hesitation. As always, I will reserve judgment until I see Season 2, but I am quite hopeful this will be a good run coming up.
 
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The 23rd century Dax hosts are, I believe, in chronological order:

1. Emony
2. Audrid
3. Torias
4. Curzon

Audrid was the ballerina, right? If she meet McCoy in medical school would she still be alive because McCoy can't possibly still be in medical school can he at this point? Of course lots of my opinion on Torias's time in starfleet I admit comes from a comic book I once read that showed him wearing the old TOS style uniforms.

Jason

Canonically, the host is either in Emony or Audrid at the time. We know that Emony (the Olympic gymnast) hooked up with McCoy when he was a student in the 2240s. We know Audrid died in 2284, had two children, and worked her way up to being head of the Trill Symbiosis commission. Further, she appears to have lived long enough to see her daughter live to be at least 29.

Given how the chronology works, one or more of these things is likely true:

  1. Emony was fairly old when she hooked up with McCoy, making it more of a "Ms. Robinson" style relationship.
  2. Emony met an untimely death at a relatively young age
  3. Audrid was joined relatively late in life, with some of her recalled memories actually being from the "pre-Dax" era.
 
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