Captain America one of the cheesiest comic-book movies ever made.

[Checkmate]

At least the implication in the "Incredible Hulk" movie was that the bad guy got the Captain America treatment, which seemed to make him past peak-human. (At least for agility and speed) If Marvel is going for a unified movie universe, they might do something similar with the Captain America character.

[oops, I guess Captaindemotion and I posted at the same time]

No, he got one of the many treatments they created to try and simulate the treatment Captain America received. It wasn't the same treatment.

 

[CaptainCanada]

The idea of a scrawny, 98-pound weaking bulking up after getting injected with a special serum now has connotations that weren't an issue back in World War II . . . .

Very much doubt it. The comics got suckered into thinking that was an issue in the 1990s, but thankfully reversed course.

Cap's serum is no different than any of the other nerds who suddenly get superhuman powers (Peter Parker, for example).

If anything, the steroid thing is even more in the public eye now than it was back in the 1990s. And, in terms of visual imagery, there's a world of difference between being accidentally bitten by a radioactive spider--or exposed to cosmic rays in space--than deliberately getting a shot of performance-enhancing chemicals . . . .

The former are obviously sci-fi silliness. The latter is a little too true to life these days.

They've already introduced the idea of the serum, so they clearly don't plan to change it.

I've always thought it was a stupid argument. There's a galaxy of difference between volunteering for a risky procedure in order to risk you life fighting fascism (something you otherwise wouldn't be able to do at all; the serum in Steve's case is as much a medical treatment) and taking steroids to cheat at sports.

 

[Anwar]

Also, only half of the Super-Soldier program was the serum. The other half is the Vita-Ray radiation treatments.

This was a neat bit of franchise canon, since they gave Blonsky the serum but not the radiation which explains his erratic behavior as the movie went on. Maybe later on in Avengers they'll have a bit explaining that.

 

[Holoaddict]

I still think the 90s movie was better than this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tVxYs3vEXE

 

[Trekker4747]

I still think the 90s movie was better than this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tVxYs3vEXE

Oh, God, I forgot about those!

 

[Bad Bishop]

I think we all agree: In the big movie in 2011, Captain America must not wear a motorcycle helmet while fighting evil.

 

[miraclefan]

Do you think Steve Rogers sufferd from a major case of ''SMALL'' Balls? from the ster*ahem*Super-serum injection?

 

[Christopher]

I don't recall if I ever saw the '90s movie, but I definitely remember the '70s TV incarnations. Heck, I even remember their theme music. The costume in the second movie was actually pretty authentic, aside from the motorcycle helmet replacing the cowl. And they had an interesting conceit, that the main character was the son of the original Steve Rogers; although they suggested that the original "Captain America" hadn't worn a costume, it otherwise could be thought of as kind of a sequel.

 

[Broccoli]

The idea of a scrawny, 98-pound weaking bulking up after getting injected with a special serum now has connotations that weren't an issue back in World War II . . . .

Very much doubt it. The comics got suckered into thinking that was an issue in the 1990s, but thankfully reversed course.

Cap's serum is no different than any of the other nerds who suddenly get superhuman powers (Peter Parker, for example).

If anything, the steroid thing is even more in the public eye now than it was back in the 1990s. And, in terms of visual imagery, there's a world of difference between being accidentally bitten by a radioactive spider--or exposed to cosmic rays in space--than deliberately getting a shot of performance-enhancing chemicals . . . .

The former are obviously sci-fi silliness. The latter is a little too true to life these days.

In the comics, it was a mixture of the injection and radiation. I don't think it'll be a problem.

 

[barnaclelapse]

A megahit Captain America film in 2011 would be Marvel Studio's greatest accomplishment to date. After all, Cap isn't as striking (visually) as a caped hero like Batman. Cap doesn't have any gadgets. Cap has no powers, so he's really not a great special effects character like Spider-Man or Iron Man. Cap just has that big shield. Will that be enough to bring in the crowds?

Sure, if all the right elements are obviously in place.

 

[Greg Cox]

The problem with the first tv-movie starring Reb Brown was that the filmmakers seemed vaguely embarrassed by the character's comic book roots. Hence, they got rid of the costume and even avoided saying the name "Captain America," which they seemed unable to take seriously. "Maybe you can be some sort of, er, 'Captain America' or something . . . ."

As I recall, it was basically an uninspired retread of THE SIX MILLION DOLLAR MAN.

The sequel was marginally better, but only because it featured Christopher Lee as the arch-villain.

 

[Christopher]

The problem with the first tv-movie starring Reb Brown was that the filmmakers seemed vaguely embarrassed by the character's comic book roots. Hence, they got rid of the costume and even avoided saying the name "Captain America," which they seemed unable to take seriously. "Maybe you can be some sort of, er, 'Captain America' or something . . . ."

Well, that's not necessarily a deal-breaker. When Kenneth Johnson did The Incredible Hulk, he was overtly and vocally embarrassed by its comic-book roots and tried to get as far away from them as possible. (He even tried to make the Hulk red instead of green.) But that show turned out pretty well.

 

[Broccoli]

[Kenneth Johnson] even tried to make the Hulk red instead of green.

He was clearly ahead of his time.

 

[Trent Roman]

After all, Cap isn't as striking (visually) as a caped hero like Batman. Cap doesn't have any gadgets. Cap has no powers, so he's really not a great special effects character like Spider-Man or Iron Man. Cap just has that big shield. Will that be enough to bring in the crowds?

Cap the character may not be visually impressive, but he also brings with him a World War II setting, which by itself promises action and if done right can be very visually affecting (think of Saving Private Ryan, the visceral impact of the D-Day landing scenes when it first came out). I doubt this film will be as gritty, if only to avoid an R rating, but I think the producers/director should consider exploiting the setting and war-movie angle with a greater degree of realism.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman

 

[Greg Cox]

Judging from the box office for INGLORIOUS BASTERDS, beating up Nazi villains never goes out of style.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I remember that movie.

*shudders*

That mask. Those ears...

*shudders again*

 

[Anwar]

And making the Red Skull Italian?!

 

[23skidoo]

The 1990 movie might have been cheesy, but it stands head and shoulders over the truly awful late-70s TV movie and its sequel.

Alex

 

[TIN_MAN]

The first part of the old Cap movie was pretty good, until they got to the 'strapped to a rocket and frozen' part, then, the writers seem to have lost their way, and it went down hill from there? As for the second 70's TV movie, it was decent, I thought, except for the bionic sound effects every time Cap did something super, and that crummy plastic shield!

P.S. And Cap should only ever ride a Harley!!!

BY the way, anybody ever seen the old CA serial from the 40's?

 

[Broccoli]

And making the Red Skull Italian?!

Yeah...that was bizarre...although, I did like the makeup they used for the Red Skull.

The WWII section of the film anyway.