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Captain America one of the cheesiest comic-book movies ever made.

Agreed. Never understood the appeal of Captain America.

Brubaker and Epting's recent run on his comic book explains it all.

It's nothing to do with patriotism, I'm not American and he's number three behind Spidey and Ms. Marvel for me.

He's the superhero all the other superheroes look up to and want to be like.
 
The Mark Gruenwald run in the 80s to the mid 90s is also gold. Especially "Captain America No More!"
 
Captain America is the best superhero ever. Anyone who doesn't like Captain America is unpatriotic or a terrorist.
 
Agreed. Never understood the appeal of Captain America.


The OP wasn't trashing the character, just the appalling low-budget movie several years back.

When done right, Cap can be a fun character. Look at Steve Engelhart's run back in the seventies.
 
I love the character, but even as a kid I hated that movie. It's funny that the only thing people really remember about it was that J.D. Sallinger's son played Cap.
 
Ah yes, I remember that movie. Tres lame.

As to the character, the current comics run is utterly brilliant. Hopefully the filmmakers take a look at it.
 
A megahit Captain America film in 2011 would be Marvel Studio's greatest accomplishment to date. After all, Cap isn't as striking (visually) as a caped hero like Batman. Cap doesn't have any gadgets. Cap has no powers, so he's really not a great special effects character like Spider-Man or Iron Man. Cap just has that big shield. Will that be enough to bring in the crowds?
 
That movie was indeed garbage. I bought a copy at a Trek convention many years ago along with a copy of the 1994 live action version of The Fantastic Four. Both were horrible movies.
 
Cap has no powers, so he's really not a great special effects character like Spider-Man or Iron Man.
I thought the Super-Soldier serum gave him strength, stamina, speed, etc at about Spider-Man level...
If I recall what the Marvel handbook stated, Spider-Man can press 12 tons, and he possesses tremendous speed and agility. Captain America, on the other hand, is "merely" peak-human level. Cap's not super in any category, but he would win a bunch of gold medals at the Olympics, I suppose.
 
Cap has no powers, so he's really not a great special effects character like Spider-Man or Iron Man.
I thought the Super-Soldier serum gave him strength, stamina, speed, etc at about Spider-Man level...
He's described as being peak-human; considerably less powerful than Spider-Man (at least, when Spider-Man is written at his peak). Generally that means he can do about the same as your average Arnold Schwarzenegger character.
 
The Nostalgia Critic is awesome. It's a crime that Carlos Mencia had his own TV show and Doug doesn't.

I find it interesting that the film in question was produced by Menahem Golan, who was one-half of the Golan-Globus group that owned Cannon films, the studio responsible for Superman IV and other B-movies. In other words, the movie was pretty much doomed from the beginning.
 
Cap has no powers, so he's really not a great special effects character like Spider-Man or Iron Man.
I thought the Super-Soldier serum gave him strength, stamina, speed, etc at about Spider-Man level...
He's described as being peak-human; considerably less powerful than Spider-Man (at least, when Spider-Man is written at his peak). Generally that means he can do about the same as your average Arnold Schwarzenegger character.

Another good comparison is Batman. He's in peak condition for an ordinary human, but doesn't have super-strength or anything.

It dawns on me, though, that they're probably going to have to tinker with Cap's origin in the new movie--to avoid any hint of steroids.

The idea of a scrawny, 98-pound weaking bulking up after getting injected with a special serum now has connotations that weren't an issue back in World War II . . . .
 
^ But haven't they already hinted that the serum used on Blonsky in The Incredible Hulk was some variant of the super-soldier serum that will be seen in the Captain America movie?
 
At least the implication in the "Incredible Hulk" movie was that the bad guy got the Captain America treatment, which seemed to make him past peak-human. (At least for agility and speed) If Marvel is going for a unified movie universe, they might do something similar with the Captain America character.

[oops, I guess Captaindemotion and I posted at the same time] :)
 
^ But haven't they already hinted that the serum used on Blonsky in The Incredible Hulk was some variant of the super-soldier serum that will be seen in the Captain America movie?

True, which is in keeping with the Ultimates take on it. At the very least, he should be able to take more punishment than even the fittest human, otherwise he would be dead many times over (although really that could apply to any Marvel hero; they all get thrown through brick walls at some point, nary a broken neck to be seen.)
 
The idea of a scrawny, 98-pound weaking bulking up after getting injected with a special serum now has connotations that weren't an issue back in World War II . . . .
Very much doubt it. The comics got suckered into thinking that was an issue in the 1990s, but thankfully reversed course.

Cap's serum is no different than any of the other nerds who suddenly get superhuman powers (Peter Parker, for example).
 
The idea of a scrawny, 98-pound weaking bulking up after getting injected with a special serum now has connotations that weren't an issue back in World War II . . . .
Very much doubt it. The comics got suckered into thinking that was an issue in the 1990s, but thankfully reversed course.

Cap's serum is no different than any of the other nerds who suddenly get superhuman powers (Peter Parker, for example).


If anything, the steroid thing is even more in the public eye now than it was back in the 1990s. And, in terms of visual imagery, there's a world of difference between being accidentally bitten by a radioactive spider--or exposed to cosmic rays in space--than deliberately getting a shot of performance-enhancing chemicals . . . .

The former are obviously sci-fi silliness. The latter is a little too true to life these days.
 
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