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Captain America one of the cheesiest comic-book movies ever made.

Cap does everything Batman does with just a shield, nothing more nothing less. If you don't get the appeal of Cap then you sure as hell don't get the appeal of Batman.

He is just an average guy, that was given one chance, and has worked his butt off his entire life. He is a hero in ever sense of the word and inspires greatness and admiration not only in his friends but his enemies as well. He is at the top right along with Supes as the number one hero, period.
 
Cap does everything Batman does with just a shield, nothing more nothing less. If you don't get the appeal of Cap then you sure as hell don't get the appeal of Batman.

Batman has:

Gadgets

A bad-ass car.

Mad detective skillz.

A bad-ass 'tude.


Captain America has:

A shield.
 
Do you actually know anything about Captain America? I don't want to waste my time if you don't actually know anything about the character?
 
The Super Soldier treatment DID give Cap some abilities beyond humans: He doesn't get tired, ever. Also he's permanently at the peak of all human ability, as in, beyond any training Batman put himself through.
 
Cap has:

Olympian-level fighting skills
Physique at the height of human perfection
Heightened military intelligence
Expert eye-to-hand skills (useful when working with the shield)
Expert tactician
Arguably Superman-level high moral code
A proud sense of country, even if he has to save it from itself at times

And, yes, a shield.


If you don't like the character, that is your business. But to completely write him off as just having a shield and nothing more is kinda naive.
 
And also, Batman even ripped off one of Cap's best stories for "Knightfall" except they did it in a less contrived manner than having some new bad guy break Cap's back.
 
Cap has:

Olympian-level fighting skills
Physique at the height of human perfection
Heightened military intelligence
Expert eye-to-hand skills (useful when working with the shield)
Expert tactician
Arguably Superman-level high moral code
A proud sense of country, even if he has to save it from itself at times

And, yes, a shield.
Steve Rogers obviously had a lot more going than just a perfected body and Army combat training. Is the Army also responsible for his character and personal leadership qualities? Such qualities had to come from somewhere.
 
Marvel actually did a funny issue about the old movie serial years ago. Cap agreed to its production because it would be good for the war effort, but, of course, the serial had to get all the details wrong--in order to avoid giving away Cap's real name and origin!

I thought that was pretty ingenious.

Reminds me of something I've wondered about. It's been established within Marvel Comics -- or at least it was back in the '60s and '70s when the writers didn't take themselves too seriously -- that Marvel Comics actually exists as a company within the Marvel Universe, and that comic books about the superheroes of the MU are read by people within the MU. So what I've wondered is, what would those in-universe comics have been like? For someone like the Fantastic Four, they could be pretty much the same as the actual comics; but what about those characters with secret identities? Do the comics invent fictional identities for them, or do they just tell stories where the heroes are always in costume and have no civilian life, like the Teen Titans animated series?

There was actually a series of one-shots back in 2000 that showed what the in-universe comics were like. As you supposed, the FF, being officially licensed, were pretty close the the "real" ones. The others were more "best guesses". For instance the comicbook Thor had a technology based hammer. If you search for Marvels Comics at Mile High Comics you can see the covers of the various books.
 
I missed the 1990s Cap movie, but have heard it's dreadful. Also, what was the reason to make the Red Skull an Italian fascist instead of a German Nazi? WTF? The 1970s TV movies with Reb Brown are pretty bad, too. Hopefully, the new movie coming soon will be a lot better, even if, as it appears, it's more like the so-called "Utimate" version of Cap.

As for what Cap has going for him, first there's his shield, which is nearly indestructible and returns to him whenever he throws it.

He's also a costumed Rip Van Winkle, as envisioned when he's brought back in the 1960s, a man out of time. So he has some old-fashioned ideas and tastes. During one memorable story arc, he dates a woman who is flabbergasted that his musical tastes are like her father's -- he listens to Glenn Miller albums, for example.

He's also supposed to be an excellent tactician and hand-to-hand combatant.

And they established that he grew up in Hell's Kitchen in New York, and wasn't some Midwestern farm boy like Superman.

Red Ranger
 
Cap's shield is a combination of adamantium and vibranium, some sort of unique process was done that couldn't be replicated (it was an accidental creation) so it's also one of a kind. I think he could permanently kill Wolverine with it if he wanted.

And also, the 90s Cap movie ended up being one of those "Support the current government act!" message movies at the end. I think they made Red Skull Italian because the movie was filmed there.
 
Cap has:

Olympian-level fighting skills
Physique at the height of human perfection
Heightened military intelligence
Expert eye-to-hand skills (useful when working with the shield)
Expert tactician
Arguably Superman-level high moral code
A proud sense of country, even if he has to save it from itself at times

And, yes, a shield.
Steve Rogers obviously had a lot more going than just a perfected body and Army combat training. Is the Army also responsible for his character and personal leadership qualities? Such qualities had to come from somewhere.

Probably it grew from any upbringing he had (although, I think his parents died when he was young). In many depictions of pre-Cap Steve, he already had a strong sense of patriotism and seemed to have a strong-willed personality. I think later takes on the origin used this as one of the reasons Steve was selected in Operation: Rebirth.

No doubt, however, the Army allowed Steve the means to hone these qualities.
 
Do you actually know anything about Captain America? I don't want to waste my time if you don't actually know anything about the character?

I know a little, not a whole lot. He's never appealed to me.

How do you know he doesn't appeal to you unless you tired to read something about him? Not saying you should like him, but at least find out something about him first.

Plenty of folks gave you some information on him. Cap is a "super-soldier" so he is as perfect as a person can be. While not a genius, he is a bright guy considering he started from a tech foundation from the 40's. He is wise and he is clever. His heart is as big as humanly possible, even though he will take a life if that is his only choice to protect someone. He historically was backed the United States, Iron Man, Black Panther, Shield, and probably many others. He can make a call and pretty much get anyone to do as he ask. That alone makes him a pretty powerful man. Probably the thing that really makes him great is that he never thinks he is better than anyone else. Working together is the most important thing to him.

Hope that give you some insight into the character.
 
When Sharon Carter once asked Cap how it is that he can dodge bullets, Cap replied with words to the effect of "Oh, that's nothing. I just 'see faster'". Whatever that means, it sounds beyond human norm.
 
The worst part thing with Captain America is his costume. Ugh. It would look silly in any incarnation. (without making changes)
 
On the subject of what Captain America has going for him, isn't his costume some kind of chainmail?
Yes. That is correct. I remember a series of issues from way back when where he went to England and teamed up with Union Jack to fight Baron Blood. Baron Blood sneaked into Cap's bedroom one night and attempted to turn him into a vampire, but he broke his fangs on Cap's chainmail. :)
 
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