Well he was originally American. Can you imagine an American Red Skull?
Captain America one of the cheesiest comic-book movies ever made.
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Well he was originally American. Can you imagine an American Red Skull?
The retconned that, the American Red Skull was just an agent of the original first Red Skull.
But technically the Red Skull DID become American in the late 80s when he transferred his mind into a cloned body of Steve Rogers.
And he'd be American again if he succeeded in his plan to transplant his mind into the unborn child of Rogers and Sharon Carter.
But technically the Red Skull DID become American in the late 80s when he transferred his mind into a cloned body of Steve Rogers.
And he'd be American again if he succeeded in his plan to transplant his mind into the unborn child of Rogers and Sharon Carter.
The first Red Skull in the comics was, yes, an American working for the Germans. He was killed early on.
However, the next, and most known, Red Skull was a German nobody that Hitler took on as his protege to show his underlings that he can produce a perfect Nazi soldier. Hilarity ensues.
When did Captain America become a Soap-opera?
When did Captain America become a Soap-opera?
Civil War, unsurprisingly.
Pretty much any long-running comic book becomes a soap opera. Both media are ongoing serial storylines told by many different creators over the years, and so they end up becoming similarly convoluted and laden with continuity baggage.
It's clear now that he wanted to put his mind in Steve's body; the kid was just a bonus to make use of for some other end.
1964?When did Captain America become a Soap-opera?
And Marvel Comics, in particular, have been part soap opera right from the beginning.
Huh? A lead character can't be a Mary Sue. A Mary Sue is a guest star out of nowhere who overshadows the main cast and is adored by them without deserving it. Particularly if that character is a wish-fulfillment surrogate for the author.
Yes, you're right. I forgot the true meaning of the word.
What I meant was that before Marvel arrived on the scene DC's characters were for the most part all perfect types with few flaws, no real "humanity" to them. Before Spider-Man no one would have ever thought of a comic character whose civilian life was just as focused on as the superhero life. At DC nobody really cared about Clark Kent as anything more than a tool for Superman to use, or Bruce Wayne as an excuse for Batman to have lots of money and gadgets. Then Marvel came and changed all that.
What I meant was that before Marvel arrived on the scene DC's characters were for the most part all perfect types with few flaws, no real "humanity" to them. Before Spider-Man no one would have ever thought of a comic character whose civilian life was just as focused on as the superhero life. At DC nobody really cared about Clark Kent as anything more than a tool for Superman to use, or Bruce Wayne as an excuse for Batman to have lots of money and gadgets. Then Marvel came and changed all that.
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Then he'd not be riding, since Harleys are supposedly and notoriously shitty bikes as far as maintenance is concerned (the Batman series used Kawasaki bikes for both Batman and Batgirl, as have a couple of other TV shows and movies).
Nobody has-apparently it's a piece of shit, with no real relation to the character it's based on other than the name.
Marvel actually did a funny issue about the old movie serial years ago. Cap agreed to its production because it would be good for the war effort, but, of course, the serial had to get all the details wrong--in order to avoid giving away Cap's real name and origin!
I thought that was pretty ingenious.
I thought that was pretty ingenious.
Oh, I know, I was just refering to the fact that Harleys are emblematic of American motercycles, so it's kinda a patriotic thing. So you wouldn't think he'd ride a Japanese bike, especially during WWII before he got froze!
Yeah, it was pretty crappy, even as serials go, but the costume wasn't bad for the era? I just wish he'd used a shield.
I'm going to go ahead and say it.
Captain America, all around, is just a shitty super-hero.
Captain America, all around, is just a shitty super-hero.
Reminds me of something I've wondered about. It's been established within Marvel Comics -- or at least it was back in the '60s and '70s when the writers didn't take themselves too seriously -- that Marvel Comics actually exists as a company within the Marvel Universe, and that comic books about the superheroes of the MU are read by people within the MU. So what I've wondered is, what would those in-universe comics have been like? For someone like the Fantastic Four, they could be pretty much the same as the actual comics; but what about those characters with secret identities? Do the comics invent fictional identities for them, or do they just tell stories where the heroes are always in costume and have no civilian life, like the Teen Titans animated series?
You're a hard sell. Someone here is going to have to recommend some Captain America trade editions to you. It won't be me because I haven't read any. But I appreciate Cap from all the Avengers comics I've read.
The movie in 2011 better be dang good.
