Hell, I even find LCARS to be outdated by modern computer standards. Though to those involved with Picard S3, and its fans, apparently LCARS is still the cat's meow.
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How do we know those labels aren't visible to the crew actually sitting at the stations? In the Cage, we see Spock using motion controls to influence station functions indicating that they're probably seeing something that's not visible to the audience.
That actually makes more sense that the controls are only visible to the crew member assigned to the station, unless you want Koloth reading sensitive ship functions from his viewscreen on your next chat with him
They don't have holograms in TNG either despite SNW establishing they existed in the 23rd century. No DOT droids either
They had holographic displays in Season 1, and maybe a singular appearance in Season 2.
They stopped doing them because they were expensive.
Yes, they did. They didn't do it often. Too expensive during Berman Era.
DOT's are seen in Picard Season 3.
Well for whatever reason they didn't have them during the later episodes that I remember. Regardless, that they stopped using them but were always there would indicate that TOS also had unseen functions that made their 1960s style tech understandable to the characters in-universe.
Or a TV show.
The sticking point doesn't seem to be "buttons" or even "touchscreens" but "displays". None of the TOS consoles through ST6 had much in the way of readouts. They went through a bunch of buttons types. (Including, I believe, sound mixing boards?)
TNG had displays but it was mostly the same kind of gibberish that was on the TMP displays or some of the TOS ones. Lots of abbreviations and number letter combinations. (To be clear, I'm talking about the "flying" controls. Helm and nav / con and ops / whatever).
So almost none of this is about function. These controls are about as functional as the TARDIS. It's about shapes and colors.
SNW has never taken the color scheme of Pike's ship, it's always been Kirk's.
Someone said they should skip TOS. But they're already there.
Starfleet, despite what the live-action shows tell us, is supposed to be a multi-species organization. 23rd century (and obviously 21st century going by this thread) humans might find the TOS look repulsive, but maybe Andorians and Tellarites find it all the rage and they happened to be the majority on the interior design council of the late 2260s.
One of my favorite stories is from when they were making In a Mirror, Darkly. They decided that since this wasn't EXACTLY the Enterprise they would put labels on the buttons. Very Okuda looking nomenclature.
They film the show (or did test footage? I forget) and when they get back the footage (in HD, right?) they find that none of those labels register at all. You can't see them!
Since then I've taken the approach that you can add whatever you want and if it can't been seen on a 1960's TV set? It was actually ALWAYS THERE!!!
Love it!Starfleet, despite what the live-action shows tell us, is supposed to be a multi-species organization. 23rd century (and obviously 21st century going by this thread) humans might find the TOS look repulsive, but maybe Andorians and Tellarites find it all the rage and they happened to be the majority on the interior design council of the late 2260s.
In my headcanon, the person who came up with the Starfleet aesthetic seen in TOS was one of the folks who died on the USS Kelvin in ST09. That's why the Kelvin Timeline looks so different.Starfleet, despite what the live-action shows tell us, is supposed to be a multi-species organization. 23rd century (and obviously 21st century going by this thread) humans might find the TOS look repulsive, but maybe Andorians and Tellarites find it all the rage and they happened to be the majority on the interior design council of the late 2260s.
So, it's time to treat Star Trek as Star Wars? No longer connected to our humanity in any real way but now in some imagined period that will be continuously seen through the 60s lens of the future.
Um..they DID show Holograms on the TV screen in TNG - go back and look at the briefing room scene in TNG S1 The Last Outpost where Data is talking about the Tkon empire. (yes, they stopped doing that because it was an expensive VFX shot to do and they often used briefing room scenes to SAVE production money as te series went forward, but that scene is still there - in canon.
Indeed. I find it far easier to believe you can actually control a Starship with this...
Compared to this...
Sir, the jolly rancher is blinking, hit the gumdrop on the second row, 4th column, then hit the juju bee. The computer console will go WHRRRRR and then we'll go to space time warp factor 9.9999
Um..they DID show Holograms on the TV screen in TNG - go back and look at the briefing room scene in TNG S1 The Last Outpost where Data is talking about the Tkon empire. (yes, they stopped doing that because it was an expensive VFX shot to do and they often used briefing room scenes to SAVE production money as te series went forward, but that scene is still there - in canon.
They also re-emerged in DS9 too...IIRC in "For The Uniform"?
And in "Doctor Bashir, I Presume?"
Also at the bar that McCoy visits in Star Trek III.
You seem to think that I need ensigns running paper printouts from room to room for it to be TOS.So, if we do the right shapes and colors then it's all OK?
Hell, I'm one of those nuts that insist that Kirk's ship had holodecks for crying out loud. (The Practical Joker.)
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