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Spoilers Canon, Continuity, and Pike's Accident
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I thought it was obvious what was meant, but I'll rephrase.
Which external realization of the NCC-1701 Enterprise is your favorite?
That's realization in the sense of "The result of an artistic effort" [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/realization#Noun].
Mine is the original VFX TOS version with the ping-pong balls in the back of the nacelles. The TMP refit is a close second.
I prefer the TOS original VFX version as well, especially the one that can change modes between the sphere at the end and the grille.
And that person will say, "THE Enterprise!"
I'll say you could've done better with the setup.
Maybe it's like bubble gum.I prefer the TOS original VFX version as well, especially the one that can change modes between the sphere at the end and the grille.
Ooh. I like this idea. I like the motivation behind it. It speaks to the character of the man.
Day One. Where No Man Has Gone Before used footage of The Cage. As did The Corbomite Maneuver AND The Man Trap (depending on your definition of Day One). Most episodes ended with the final shot of the Enterprise from Where No Man Has Gone Before. Heck, the season 2 and 3 opening credits are exclusively footage from the pilots.
I think it was our own @aridas sofia (who will no doubt be annoyed at being invoked in a SNW thread
) who first put pen to paper in a sort of "Grand Unified Theory of Enterprise Evolution" - including publishing a packet of drawings called The Enterprise Heavy Cruiser Evolution Blueprints. Although the various "classes" of Enterprise (Constitution, Bonhomme Richard, Achernar, and of course Enterprise) had been showing up in his work through the mid 1980's.It's a lovely idea, but it's not really borne out by the literal footage.
I'd suggest it was even earlier than that! The Cage used both the 11-foot and the 33-inch models to represent the same ship, despite significant differences on the lower saucer
Looking through your comprehensive catalog of VFX shots it would appear that the version with the rectangular end covers on the nacelles only appears in "The Cage" while the sphere cap and grilled nacelle versions alternate within the regular episodes with the 33" sprinkled in. I personally like to think of the ship changing operating modes like a sailing ship adjusting her sails and such since that is more exciting (to me) than the mostly static ships of the series with blinking lights. But that is totally my personal preference.
Day One. Where No Man Has Gone Before used footage of The Cage. As did The Corbomite Maneuver AND The Man Trap (depending on your definition of Day One). Most episodes ended with the final shot of the Enterprise from Where No Man Has Gone Before. Heck, the season 2 and 3 opening credits are exclusively footage from the pilots.
I think it was our own @aridas sofia (who will no doubt be annoyed at being invoked in a SNW thread
It's a lovely idea, but it's not really borne out by the literal footage.
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That gets into "How many Millenium Falcons are there" territory. They're contemporary models.
I'd also say "significant" would mean "Someone who doesn't study Star Trek can notice them." I'm not even sure the differences between the original ILM Galaxy class and the 4 foot model even reach the general definition of "significant". Even though they jump right out at us.
Even TAS uses the different models!
I don't mind the bending, even the breaking of certain cannon, however, some cannon are more resolute than others, so shouldn't be broken.
I just leave my mind at the door and enjoy it, and try to ignore the occasional egregious violations. Its a show run by these people today, tomorrows people may do something else entirely.
I just leave my mind at the door and enjoy it, and try to ignore the occasional egregious violations. Its a show run by these people today, tomorrows people may do something else entirely.
Agreed. Thread over.
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Day One. Where No Man Has Gone Before used footage of The Cage. As did The Corbomite Maneuver AND The Man Trap (depending on your definition of Day One). Most episodes ended with the final shot of the Enterprise from Where No Man Has Gone Before. Heck, the season 2 and 3 opening credits are exclusively footage from the pilots.
I think it was our own @aridas sofia (who will no doubt be annoyed at being invoked in a SNW thread
It's a lovely idea, but it's not really borne out by the literal footage.
I approached Star Trek as if I was watching some Hollywood treatments of naval history, like iirc the 1976 film “Midway”. In such dramas, you might see US ships and aircraft stand in for Japanese, or more modern ships stand in for much earlier ones. I imagined it the way I thought it should look and definitely did not take what I was seeing onscreen literally if it didn’t make sense to me, or if making it make sense created more problems than it solved.
IOW, all the best bits of Trek (and a little besides). Good, let's shove SNW in there with them!
Go ahead. That doesn't make "two timelines" where there's only one collection of TV series that are all set intentionally within the same loose/sloppy continuity.
Now if we can only combine all the separate SNW and TOS-TAS forums together to really drive home that point.
Now if we can only combine all the separate SNW and TOS-TAS forums together to really drive home that point.
That also is THE Enterprise Hallmark Exclusive Bench. I'm pretty sure it's going to be on sale for the summer months.
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