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Bruce Greenwood is the new Pike!!!

Vektor said:
And the average non-hardcore fans out there won't know or care that Greenwood's age is not a perfect match for the nitpicky chronological details established in one episode 40 years ago.

When Paramount hires me I'll start thinking like an executive. So long as I am a moderately nitpicky fan not on the payroll, that's the opinion I'll stand behind.
 
The only thing I've seen Greenwood in is John from Cincinatti. Pretty much everyone hated that show, but I thought it was brilliant. And he did a good job there, so I've got no worries about how well he'll play Pike.
 
Starship Polaris said:
No go - we're not letting people buy tickets unless they can get at least 75% on a Trek Knowledge quiz to be administered nationwide both by fan volunteers at 4,000 theaters and online at Fandango.com.

Once again, any opinion which is even slightly qualified approval rather than a full on fellating of the multi-faced God that is Abrams and the non-Trekkie audience is subject to that rapier wit. I consider myself dully--er, I mean, duly--chastized. All hail McTrek.

(Now do you have the tenor of discussion you were so obviously looking for?)
 
Actually, no, I was hoping for a lighthearted rejoinder. I forget sometimes where I am.

(how can anyone not smile at a sentence with "fandango" in it? It could have been "movietickets.com" ;) )
 
ChristopherPike said:
Not convinced by the physical resemblance at all. He's the right age range certainly but my money was always on Ray Liotta (along with every else who voted in that ST.com poll).

If he's only onscreen for a minute or two, then I guess he's a cheaper option and it matters little who's Pike. I'm hoping Greenwood's one of those chameleon type actors given a few Jeffrey Hunter films to study... Bruce should get his complimentary DVD of The Cage and copies of The Searchers (1956) and The Frogmen (1951). Judging by his performance in Thirteen Days, he specialises in mimicry. Pike was a tortured soul with a short fuse... He should take it from there.

Yeah, oh well. Of all the casting choices, I think this one is a bit off, in terms of overall appearance, age, etc. Plus this guy seems to play a baddie m ore often. But then again it's probably a small role.
 
Is it just me or is the post from ChristopherPike a bit (or a lot) on the scary side?

Maxwell Everett said:
Quick & dirty photomanip:

greenwoodpikedn9.jpg

That makes him look like Kent McCord. :p
 
This is a good fit, I think. I never really had any opinion on who should be cast in this role, I never considered Pike to be as consequential a character as some around here. Just so long as they cast a competent actor with at least a passing resemblance. Looks like they did a good job! :bolian:
 
Starship Polaris said:
Actually, no, I was hoping for a lighthearted rejoinder. I forget sometimes where I am.

(how can anyone not smile at a sentence with "fandango" in it? It could have been "movietickets.com" ;) )

Fair enough. Let's try this:

Starship Polaris said:
No go - we're not letting people buy tickets unless they can get at least 75% on a Trek Knowledge quiz to be administered nationwide both by fan volunteers at 4,000 theaters and online at Fandango.com.

Hey! Stop leaking behind-the-scenes plans without spoiler code! I'm going to sic my lawyer on you if you keep this up!

Now where did I put Cogley's number?

Brutal Strudel said:
...a full on fellating of the multi-faced God that is Abrams...

Thank you for the offer. I'll be waiting in my trailer. You know where it is....

:devil:
 
^But Cogley isn't J... Oh, I see what you mean.






*pause*








Move along; nothing to see here.
 
The Squire of Gothos said:
Randy1012 said:Not really a physical match, but who cares?

I was going to say that I thought he had the right look for the role, not a physical match as you say but he looks like he'd bring across the sort of authority that Jeffrey Hunter did.
That's exactly what I thought, too. There's a certain presence about him that I think suits Pike well.
 
Brutal Strudel said:
Holytomato said:
Darnit it Maxwell Everett! I was just about to say, "Come on! You know the rules. :D "

Great pic! :thumbsup:

What's with this, "He's too OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLD!" :wtf:

Remember, the movie isn't set during Kirk's Academy, oops sorry "Starfleet Academy 90210" days.

During the period we saw Pike in TOS--11 years before "The Menagerie"--Pike appeared to be a man in his mid-thirties, late thirties at the oldest. By the time he was confined to the boop-boopmobile, he would still have been younger than this guy and Kirk was a full captain at that point. (The dialogue of the episode makes this worse when Commodore Mendez refers to Pike as being "about your age, Jim" which would make him no older than 40 while he was in the wheelchair. I think we can safely ignore that for this discussion.)

So any Pike who is visibly older than his early forties in a film showing a pre-TOS Kirk and Spock is too old. He may still do a fine job and it's hardly a deal-breaker (not for me, at least; the creative team may be but that's a different insult-filled discussion), just a statement of apparent fact.

Franklin does make a good point, though, and they might be able to make it look as if Pike is a good five or six years younger than Greenwood. If I could accept Shatner and Nimoy et al. in 1979 as being only 2 1/2 years older than they were in 1969, I can handle a 51-year-old Greenwood as a, say, 43-year-old Pike .
You know, an overlooked possibility here is the time travel factor. If there is something going on here that keeps Kirk from becoming Captain, then Greenwood may be playing Pike as if he did not hand over the Enterprise to Kirk. Ergo, the accident did not happen. Pike remained Captain of the ship, etc.
 
I'm certainly pleased. I like Greenwood a lot, I thought he was great as JFK in 13 Days. I hadn't considered him for the role, but I think he's a great choice.

Now if we could only get someone cast as Gary Mitchell in this film, but it doesn't seem that his character is going to appear.
 
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