Best Series

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  1. Balok's Decoy

    Balok's Decoy Commodore Premium Member

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    DS9. Strongest characterization, best stories with multi-season arcs. It's great. The S4 opening is also my favorite.
     
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  2. Vger23

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    Man--- as simple as it always sounds, this is never an easy question. Star Trek is my favorite franchise. There's no television or movie franchise that even comes close. So...for me to do this isn't very easy.

    TOS- This is the original, and the template that everything that came after was based upon. It not only is my favorite Star Trek series, it is far-and-away my favorite television series of all time (and may objectively be the BEST television series of all time).

    As for the rest...

    I love TNG for many reasons. It's like a warm blanket. Patrick Stewart is the best actor that the franchise has ever had. Although unrealistic and somewhat undramatic as a result, it is a wonderful "aspirational" viewpoint on where spacefaring humanity could be one day. This show set the tone for everything else that followed.

    DS9 is probably my second-favorite series because I love the characters and richness of the story once it became an arc. Characters have always been my #1 draw with Star Trek, and this is what DS9 (after TOS) did best. All of the characters are compelling, interesting and dynamic. They don't need to be "likable" to be engaging...and DS9's characters are all engaging.

    VOY is my least-favorite series, but there's a lot to love there. I really enjoy the "pioneering" aspect that admittedly was hit-or-miss with this series (but when it hit it was very good). I also like how the relationships formed on this show. Some of the romantic notes fell awkwardly flat, but the friendships / mentorships that developed were great. Also, very nice production design and music.

    ENT is a series that was my least-favorite, until I recently did a re-watch. Given the benefit of a more distant separation from the rest of the franchise (meaning, judging it NOW as opposed to judging it back in 2001), this is a pretty entertaining little series, and I have now elevated it above VOY. It is definitely hit-or-miss, but I find some of the chemistry to be very fun, and the story arcs can be engaging. Unlike most, I find Archer to be a good character because he's not the same Picard / Janeway / Sisko 24th Century mold. He's very much finding his way...and I think that's far more entertaining than someone hitting every ball out of the park.

    DSC has been very good thus far, and probably comes in third after TOS and DS9...but it's still far too early to judge. What I can say (and have said repeatedly) is that it is certainly head-and-shoulders above the 4 spin-off series in terms of relative quality and entertainment value through the first 9-10 episodes. I really struggled with DS9 and VOY through the first half of their first seasons. TNG was hit-or-miss...but I was in 7th grade so was far more forgiving. DSC has grabbed me from the get-go, despite it not being perfect. Time will tell. If it grows and develops like the other series did...it could be very special. As a fan of the franchise, I sincerely hope so and will continue to support it as it grows and matures.

    So...if forced to do it:

    TOS
    DS9
    DSC (* early to tell)
    TNG
    ENT
    VOY
     
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  3. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Commodore Commodore

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    Wow, switch VOY and ENT and that's the exact order I'd go with.
     
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  4. Mysterion

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    TOS. Followed very, very closely by DSN. IMO. YMMV.
     
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  5. Vger23

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    And, admittedly, that's how I had it for many many years until I did a recent re-watch of ENT (just this past spring). Looking at it with fresh eyes...I found a new appreciation for it.
     
  6. Refuge

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    Voyager is my favourite, then the Original, then TNG. Discovery is shit.
     
  7. Vger23

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  8. Trevellian

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    DS9 for me - great stories, and IMO the best overall ensemble cast, portraying characters who you could empathise with all the more for their flaws.
     
  9. Bry_Sinclair

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    Amen to that :lol:
     
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  10. Satron

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    McFadden's hair in that picture should disqualify TNG for anything.
     
  11. 2takesfrakes

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  12. Balok's Decoy

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    I'll force myself here:

    DS9
    TOS
    DSC (still early, but I'm feeling 3rd)
    TNG
    ENT (about par with TNG)
    VOY (haven't seen it yet)
     
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  13. Herbert

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    Gotta go with TOS as #1 and TNG as #1a. I grew up watching TOS in syndication in the 70s. Can't beat it. Only saw a few episodes of the animated series. Defintiely need to check those out TNG is close to TOS, very very close.

    Oddly, I pretty much lost interest after that. Started with Voyager and DS9 got bored and left. Came back briefly to VOY when Jeri Ryan joined but soon lost interest again. Never went back to DS9. I do want to watch DS9 from beginning to end some day though. Recently did that with VOY and enjoyed it mostly but wasn't blown away. Started with ENT, got bored and left never to return. Refuse to subscribe to CBS All Access for one show. They can suck it
     
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    TOS, because... xd_z8c-kb02kyizxbpx2pg2.jpg
     
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    TOS
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  16. JirinPanthosa

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    For me it's between TNG and DS9, I'd give slight edge to TNG. TOS a close third.

    Discovery I'd place as a distant fourth. I like Voyager, but it's just so god damned safe, other than being in the delta quadrant it's basically TNG with a weaker cast. Discovery at least is doing its own thing. And Ent, season 4 isn't enough to make up for the utter garbage of the first two seasons.

    If season 4 were the only season it would be an easy #4.
     
  17. Tenacity

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    Why?

    If it's possible to point to certain characters, individual episodes (example Plato's Stepchildren), entire seasons, or a Star trek movie as "shit," why not be able to do the same with a particular series?

    My favorite series is TOS, purely for personal subjective reasons.
     
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  18. JesterFace

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    I think it's too early to place 'Discovery' on these lists, it has only taken its first steps and others have years worth of episodes.

    BTW, Finnish TV hasn't shown any episodes of the new series... yet?
    All I can say about this new series is that the Klingon new look is a dumb idea.
     
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  19. Vger23

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    Why?

    1. It's irrelevant to this topic. The topic isn't "what series is shit". It's "what series is the best". The DSC comment was completely and utterly unnecessary.

    2. When any one individual feels the need to take a dig at a series or movie or character in nearly every post they make, regardless of topic or sub forum, it's time to move on. Let it gooooo, let it go!

    3. Nobody cares. It's an unarguable and narrow statement that doesn't invite debate or retort of any kind. So it's just threre to draw ire essentially.

    4. It's unhealthy and unproductive, IMHO, to spend that much energy on something you can't stand. It's even less productive to attempt to draw conflict from a community of people who largely disagree.

    That's why.
     
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  20. Lord Garth

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    I agree with you. Yet, at the same time, I want to include it because it'll be interesting to see how it'll go up and down or stay the same. So, in series rankings I'd use the qualifier "It's too early to tell, but as of right now..."

    I will leave it out of any season-rankings, though. I think there will be a ton of twists in the rest of the season. The way Discovery looks like it'll work, it's hard to tell how a season is until it's over.

    Yeah. I can live with it but it's the one thing about the show I don't like.

    It makes you wonder. If the Discovery time-traveled into the 24th Century and ran into the Enterprise-D, what would Worf look like?